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Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:32 am



Okay, we got our taxes in and I needed/wanted a new saddle for the bike, so after some research here and on other sites, plus memories for prior use on other bikes I have owned, I decided on a Corbin Masters Type Saddle. I want to share my experience so far with the purchase, fit, and first 150 mile, so far, of riding on it. . . . .

1) The PURCHASE
The dealership I ordered the saddle from TRIED to be helpful, and truly was as much as they could be. I bought from Shawnee Honda in Shawnee Ok, about 50 miles from me, for two reasons 1) they are a recognized Corbin Dealer, 2) they offer a GWRRA discount . "Membership has its privileges." lol
Both the dealership and I where disappointed with the company web site as the "Live Seat Configurator" did not include a Goldwing seat, so I could not "see" what I was trying to order the way I wanted it, or thought I did. I wound out going with the default settings in the ORDER section, all BLACK , leather for the seating section, vinyl for the sides and welting. Don't get me wrong, it looks great, but it was not my first choice.
I ordered on 2-18 and it got here on 3-4 (Friday) so not too bad there considering the time of year, and I am betting they do 1/2 their business at tax time. . . .

2) The FIT
First off, THIS THING SUCKS to put on the first time, or two, or three. . . but the website warns you of that, so ok. According to the website, this is due to their tighter fitting pan and design in general, fitting tighter so the "lines" flow better, and they do in my opinion, but damn, it is a bear the first time !
The drivers position is moved back and down some, or so it appears, as I have even better "feel" with my feet down at a stop light or stop sign, more stable and in control of the bike, big plus, even though it was not a huge issue for me at 6'2" tall with a 32'/34' inseam. The wife seat on the other hand, has been risen, which in my wife case is a BAD thing ! She is all of 4'8" tall and now, with the Corbin seat, she can not reach the stock passenger floor boards at all, and can barely reach her Kuryakan swing up passenger pegs, making her very uncomfortable, and unstable feeling.
last on fit is the Drivers back rest, it came with the worst instructions I have seen in a long time, they remind me of Chinese stereo instructions !
I can not figure out how to adjust the back rest fore and aft, nor how to adjust the tilt of the back rest pad to match my posture. The instruction sheet is VERY generic and does not look anything like I have. It appears to be more for CRUISER or BAGGER type saddles, not a DRESSER saddle like I now have. On top of that, as I mentioned before, the drivers seat is set back with the Corbin design, well for us, it is back far enough on this seat, I can not use the backrest when riding two up, only when solo. Most, about 80%, of my riding is solo, so I want this thing to fit, and fit right. . .

3) The RIDE
As I stated above, the drivers seat is set slightly lower and back from stock, and this fits well for me, giving a more stable feel at stop lights and signs, the foam is firmer, giving less sore/hot spots on my rump when covering any kind of mileage, so that is good, and it just looks nice, also a plus. The wife was not as happy, her seat is raised up some, maybe a inch or two, and was enough to cause her some serious discomfort in the stability department. She said if it was not for the passenger arm rests we have, she would not have felt secure or comfortable on a longer ride. Beyond those items, we where both very happy with the feel of the seat, even thou it is not "Broke in" yet as we have only ridden about 150 mile so far on it.

4) In Conclusion
Would I recommend this seat for my riding brothers and sister. . . . not really, BUT I also would not say do not get it as over all it is a good citing comfortable seat, just not to my wife and I. So my suggestion would be, if you are interested in a Corbin saddle, try to find someone who owns one on a bike like yours and see if you can barrow their bike, or atlas barrow their saddle to use on your bike for a test ride.

I hope you can use the information I provided to help you decide whether or not to buy a Corbin or go with an other brand saddle.


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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:40 pm

I will offer a slight corollary, being that my GL1500 is equipped with a Corbin saddle that I have ridden on for about 25,000 miles.

When I first got it, I thought I had made a terrible, expensive mistake. It was hard, unforgiving, and made me sore. The backrest was too far back, so that it wasn't useful with my relatively short arms.

Once I figured out the not-so-easy backrest fore/aft adjustment (which requires removing the seat on mine) and through trial-and-error got it where I wanted it, the backrest was much better.

After a few thousand miles, I noticed the saddle was far more comfortable. It was much softer in certain parts.

Today, I can proclaim this saddle as the most comfortable seat I have ever had on a motorcycle. I have ridden in excess of 20 hours straight on it, on more than one occasion, and was not sore - just tired.

The passenger portion curves inward too much at the bottom, making it uncomfortable for the passenger. When my wife does ride on it, she needs to bring a seatback cushion to strap into place.

So if I were to do it again, would I buy one? Without question, I'm a Corbin convert - so much so that I bought one for my wife's PC800 as well. I would however have them change the shape of the rear seat, so that it's not so high and curved at the bottom rear edge.

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:36 pm

hmmn, interesting observations, and I do agree to Corbins being VERY COMFORTABLE, so I hope this one breaks in nice too. I had one on my XS1100C and one on my 1989 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300, both of those where KILLER seats, but both had been on the bike before I got it, so there was no break in period.
maybe we need to have you make a video of how to adjust the durn backrest for those of us who are having no luck with it. . . . HINT HINT ! LOL
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby spiralout » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:39 pm

The backrest is simple to adjust for fore/aft and tilt, in my opinion, no instructions needed. Although the fore/aft does take some trial and error being you have to remove the seat to adjust then reinstall to test it out. I'll take some pics tomorrow if you want, Uncle Fester.

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:33 am

PLEASE ! Thank you very much. . . I hope to have the bike out of the Bike Hospital tomorrow or Friday at the latest, so I can start working on adjustments.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby spiralout » Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:22 pm

Here's what the bottom of my saddle looks like. The forward and backward is adjusted by loosening the locking nut on the large flat washer and moving the backrest fpr/aft then locking it back down.

The backrest tilt is adjusted with a hex set screw right above the backrest pivot. For those interested, note the Eagletac PN20a2 MKII flashlight I'm using for a pointer. If you think the 69 lumens from your Streamlight Stylus Pro you use for an inspection light is bright, this joker put's out 179 on high and 40 on low using the same 2x AAAs and puts your Streamlight to shame. :P




It's much easier to get to the tilt adjustment screw with the backrest off the bike. I unbolted the shaft from it's holder so I can put it on and off when needed depending on how big of a belly and thighs I have riding pillion at the time. If you can't pull the backrest straight up out of it's hole and want to remove it to get to the tilt adjustment, you need to remove the 5 bolts and possibly the adjustment locknut (I forget, it's been a while and many beers since I did this) to get the bracket out of the way for access to the screw, washers and nut holding the backrest shaft in the square tube.


I hope Corbin hasn't changed the way the new models work or I typed all this for nothing. :lol:

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:16 pm

My tilt mech for the backrest its self looks like yours, but the seat portion looks totally different. I can access mine via a small grommeted hole on top of the seat, fold the back rest all the way forward as if loading a passenger and then on the seat , right behind the backrest mounting hole, is the hole for adjustment fore and aft. . . I will get a few pics in just a bit.
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Grommet hole where locking / fore aft adjustment bolt goes in
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby spiralout » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:23 am

Ya, complete redesign on the fore/aft. In your 2nd picture, where the backrest is folded forward, mine doesn't do that. It's a straight shaft down through the seat into a mechanism at the bottom. Sounds like you have it covered, though. Do the newer Corbins for the 1500 still have the height adjustment lever on the left side like the old ones?

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:29 am

spiralout wrote:Ya, complete redesign on the fore/aft. In your 2nd picture, where the backrest is folded forward, mine doesn't do that. It's a straight shaft down through the seat into a mechanism at the bottom. Sounds like you have it covered, though. Do the newer Corbins for the 1500 still have the height adjustment lever on the left side like the old ones?


Mine does not, I believe that is a optional feature along with heat, which I also did not get.
As for having it covered, maybe. . . LOL between the help here and a 15-20 min call with Corbin Cust Service, I think I am good, once I get the bike back this afternoon, I will start playing with it and we shall see then. Unfortunately they are calling for rain this afternoon through the weekend, so may not have much play time, again , we will see.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby jim mccarty » Sun May 15, 2016 4:36 am

I also have a Corbin on my 1500 trike. Now here's my problem, or maybe inconvenience. I tried moving the lever on the left side of the seat. Wouldn't move. Guessing it has something to do with the backrest. Also unable to move backrest.
What do I do to make it workable?

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Tue May 17, 2016 4:29 am

It sounds like yours may be the "older" design, with a height adjustment lever and a drivers backrest that does not tilt forward for passenger loading and unloading, the "newer" design I have does not offer those options.

As for the seat itself, it has broke in nicely for me, and is getting better for the wife. We have played with different length fore and aft adjustment bolts ( longer bolt, farther forward, shorter bolt farther back ) and have found CLOSE to what we need, but given our size, it seams to be best if we leave the back rest OFF for two up riding. Luckily it is a 2-3 minute operation to put it off and on, so I fire the bike up, and while it is warming up, add or remove the back rest for my days ride.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:57 am

Well, I have had the seat for about 8 or 9 months and about 10K miles now, and thought I would chime in with a follow up.

The seat has broken in nicely, and is now very comfortable MOST days. Hey, a Black leather seat on a 110* day is NEVER comfortable ! LOL I have done a few longer trips now, about 400 miles in a day, and one long trip of just under 900 in just over 12 hrs of saddle time. . . .THAT was a long day !
Anyway, like I said, the seat has broke in nice, for both me and the wife, she can reach the swing up pegs now, and wearing boots with a short heel, can reach the floor boards too.
As for putting the seat on and off the bike, it has gotten MUCH easier with the more I do it, but I think I will still get the pointed seat bolts soon. With the stock seat, I could remove the side panel to get to the battery with out removing the seat, that is NOT POSSIBLE with the Corbin !
I have also learned how to adjust the drivers back rest, both fore and aft as well as the tilt of the backrest now, and with it adjusted right, I can use it even when two up, as long as it is not a 30* day and we are both bundled up for it. . . .
So, all that said, yes I would now recommend the Corbin Master series saddle for anyone interested in a new, quality seat for their GL1500. BIT I would also say to try a bike with one on it first, BEFORE you buy one as each person is different in their desires from a seat.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby wmerryall » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:15 pm

I had a Corbin. It was hard and uncomfortable after several thousand miles. My wife absolutely hated the stupid points sticking out of the trunk rest. I shipped that back to them and they replaced it with one sans points and with a straighter posture. The replacement was the wrong color even though the paperwork that came with it specified the correct color. They told me to ship it back and they would take care of it right away. It cost me $72 for overnight FedEx and they spent two weeks before returning it regular ground shipping. For customer service alone I will never buy from them again. That seat was replaced with a Day-Long from Russell Cycle Products. The person who bought it from me replaced it with a Day-Long as well. RCP offers a money back comfort guarantee.

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby cbx4evr » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:38 pm

Interesting thread and thanks for the reviews. Coincidentally it was the first new post thread today and I came in looking for info about Corbin seats. Have a line on an older Corbin for $150. Looks to be in good shape but concerned about sitting lower than the stock seat. I find it low enough. Seat I'm looking at doesn't have folding backrest for driver. Needs to be removed to allow passenger to get on. Seems easy enough but may eventually get to be a hassle. Decisions, decisions.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Uncle Fester » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:53 pm

cbx4evr wrote: Have a line on an older Corbin for $150. Looks to be in good shape but concerned about sitting lower than the stock seat.

At $150 I would probably go for it, worst case, you don't like it and have to resell it via Craigslist or whatever. . . .
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Postby Scooter363y » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:52 am

I thought the 1500 wing had adjustable passenger (height) floorboards? If so adjust them up for the wife.

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby NVSB4 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:32 am

Scooter363y wrote:I thought the 1500 wing had adjustable passenger (height) floorboards? If so adjust them up for the wife. Scooter

Only the SE models have the adjustable passenger floorboards.
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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby Scooter363y » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:49 am

It can't be that hard to upgrade to that can it.
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My wife has the same problem she wants more secure footing (higher boards) she is vertically challenged. So I'm making a spacer from a 2x6. I have ordered a set of robber footboard pads from Honda. I will trace their outline on the wood. And with some Velcro will use them as spacers for her comfort. When she isn't with me in the trunk they go.

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Postby Uncle Fester » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:10 pm

Scooter363y wrote:It can't be that hard to upgrade to that can it.
It's all about keeping momma happy


My wife has the same problem she wants more secure footing (higher boards) she is vertically challenged. So I'm making a spacer from a 2x6. I have ordered a set of robber footboard pads from Honda. I will trace their outline on the wood. And with some Velcro will use them as spacers for her comfort. When she isn't with me in the trunk they go.

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You might look into these too Scooter363, I was gonna, but she likes her swing up pegs as raising the boards made it too hard for her to get on and off the bike due to the new step-up height .

http://wingstuff.com/products/1540-chro ... sts_stands

This picture is SIMILAR to the passenger pegs that where on our bike when we bought it. . .
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Postby Scooter363y » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:35 pm

I had thought about those but would be about the same for her feet swinging forward and up. She just needs straight up. We tried a piece of 2x4 under feet and that was the ticket. Now to make something more permanent.

Thanks for thinking about my situation

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Postby Scooter363y » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:42 pm

Well now that I open the link it is not what is in the picture. T.hat might just work.
Thanks

I know that this was originally posted about the Corbin seats. I had one on my old Bmw rt but it was only $350 about 1998. Now for the wing it's $1290. I just cannot justify that kinda investment in a seat when the stock one worked as good as it does. I throw a sheepskin on it and I'm ready to go

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Re: Corbin GL1500 Master Saddle

Postby CrystalPistol » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:34 pm

Bought my '85 GL1200A in 1995, wrestled with the OEM seat and Wing Leader Backrest for awhile, seat just eat my butt on a longer ride. I bought a Gell pad, tried it on the seat, in the seat, and then one day on the Blue Ridge Parkway was looking at a set on another Wing, that thing looked great and so comfortable. Fellow invited me to sit on it .... WOW! I was hooked. I soon made some calls, and for long found that Schroeder Honda in Hendersonville, NC would ship me a new Corbin seat with adjustable back rest for $700. I had to have relief, so I ordered it. That was about 1998, that seat looks might near as good today as then and it's always been a wonderful seat to sit on.



2004 we bought a 1997 GL1500SE converted by the original owner as a Lehman GTL Trike in 1998. They (he and his wife) had bought the bike in late 1996, put a Hartco cover on the oem seat in Jan 1997, and soon, they splurged on a Hartco full custom seat. That was on it when we bought it in 2004. I knew he had sent it back twice to Hartco to make changes, it was a pretty seat, but by itself it was a PITA. I broke out our Gell pads, bought covers to fit from AirRider. That helped ... then after a long ride .... I had enough. They had given me the OEM seat with slightly work Hartco cover (as well as every receipt, instruction, left over parts) and I had simply "stored it". I dug it out and we tried it, better than Hartco seat. So I was curious, pulled cover off ..... looked like a brand new OEM seat ... which it was in effect. Bought a Utopia back rest and I was in hog heaven for a few years.

Then in 2015 a friend mentioned he had a Corbin seat that he had bought for their trike a few years back but that his wife didn't like because she had short legs and he had replaced it soon after. I had never seen a Corbin on his trike so I know he didn't use it long. A deal was struck, it was very dark grey for most part but the seat parts where you sit were magenta leather which really only looks right on a Magenta bike/trike (or black or white maybe). I also found that because I had moved the travel trunk rearwards 2-1/4" years ago, the upturn at the rear of the Corbin seat bothered my wife. For what I paid, I pulled the rear cover off enough to cut the upturn flip off the pan, remove excess padding, and reattached cover tucking excess underneath. Made several trial mods as I workedup to final version.
I cleaned the seat of all oils, etc and after a failed effort using Duplicolor products, stripped and recleaned and dyed the seat using SEM Classic Black for Leather after using SEM's cleaner and prep. The seat looks GREAT and it is every bit as comfortable as the one on my 1200, we simply love it. It is better than the OEM seat on a long ride .... and that Hartco is trash bin bound this spring cleaning. Can't believe I kept it. Talked to original owner after putting Corbin on, he asked "What, you didn't like that Hartco?" .... I said no and he admitted he never liked it but that it costs $1200 and so he was determined to use it.




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