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Gary Neppell
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Lithium ion battery

Postby Gary Neppell » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:55 am



Has anyone replaced their gold wing batteries with a lithium ion battery if so are you having good experiences with this



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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:23 pm

The benefits (a few pounds saved) don't outweigh the disadvantages, to me. A cold lithium battery will not supply enough current to start a Goldwing - you have to turn the bike on and let the headlight and accessories draw some power from the battery for a minute or two. That will warm up the battery enough to allow it to supply enough current to crank the engine.

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby Gary Neppell » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:05 pm

The negatives are piling up Lower amp hour special battery charger Price
Thank you for the reply

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby MikeB » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:22 pm

The price was good enough to stop me. You can buy three AGM batteries for what they want for a Lithium Ion battery.
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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby thrasherg » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:05 am

I have fitted 3 of my motorcycles (small road & dirt bikes) with Lithium batteries, but do not plan to do any others, as stated they are very expensive, the weight saving is nice (particularly on a small light weight motorcycle!! Something the wing is NOT!), but all 3 of my batteries have died in less than 2 years, so they just don't seem to be reliable. My bikes don't get much use and they are all on trickle chargers. Everything seems okay, but I will go for a ride and one day they are perfect and the next day they don't work, it's as if a fuse or connection inside the battery broke. All 3 batteries have failed the same way Yokai the manufacturer replaced 2 of them, but I gave up on the 3rd and went back to a regular sealed lead acid battery. My batteries are all on small light weight bikes, saving a pound or two of weight on the wing is just not worth the effort and reliability issues that I have seen. I would suggest sticking with a conventional battery for the moment, LIPO reliability just doesn't seem to be where it needs to be for motorcycle use.. I am sure it will get better, but it's not there yet!!

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby Gary Neppell » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:16 am

Thank you for your reply it looks like I will be sticking with the AGM battery

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby themainviking » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:25 am

I put the biggest lithium battery that would fit in my GL1800, and took it back out. I was not happy with the iffy nature in our varying climate up here in the great big north. I put an OEM equivalent back in and am much happier. I have a $300 + lithium here if anyone is interested. Shipping is cheap as it don't weigh much.
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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby bobsteinberg » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:08 am

I installed one from Deltran (the makers of BatteryTender) about 2 years ago on my old '02 GL1800, then transferred it to my new-to-me 2010 GL1800 last year. I ride in the winter here in New Jersey. Have had no problems with the battery (although I never tried to start the bike when the temps were below about 18 degrees!). ALWAYS connect a BatteryTender to the bike after every ride and leave it on until the next ride. Been doing this with all my bikes since the 1980's and have had good luck with battery life. I like the Lithium Ion batty for it's ultra light weight and hope to get several more years out of this one. They are expensive, but I like shedding some weight from the bike.

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby gordonv » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:21 pm

First, I don't think they make an Lithium Ion battery yet for mc, it's an Li Fe (Iron) battery.

I bought one for all the benefit you can have for the battery. Couldn't find anything bad about it. Then got the paper work with it, and read all those nice points where not actually real.

.1% discharge/month (when stored in 5'C or less temp).

Didn't mind the higher cost, and the need for a new charger, but all those benefits that I thought I was getting, didn't actually exist. You need to down load the brochures and read all about them.

With lead acid being as cheap as $50, don't bother spending the $300 ($400 CAD) for them. Just make sure you have a volt meter on your bike to show what your alt/battery are doing.

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Re: Lithium ion battery

Postby bobsteinberg » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:42 am

I bought one from Deltran (the folks who make the Battery Tender) almost 2 years ago. Significant weight difference (the Deltran batty feels like it weighs maybe 1 pound). I also ride in the winter here in New Jersey so I've used the bike in temps as low as the 20's with no problems. After every ride I always hook the bike up to a Battery Tender (same one I've used for probably 8-10 years and it's the same one that I used on my old lead/acid batteries....so I don't know why folks think you need to get a "special" charger for a Lithium Ion batty). I've installed a Gerbing batty connector and that's what I use for the heated gear in the winter and also to connect the Battery Tender when I hook it up after riding. No problems and happy with the light battery.




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