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Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:09 am



My riding partner has come up with a plan to ride from northwest Arkansas to Las Vegas, Nevada near the end of August. :shock:
I don't mind hot weather too much, but this is in the desert, in August. Is this a good idea? :roll:
I'm a bit skeptical but if it's not an unusual thing for Goldwingers to ride to Las Vegas, in August, I'm game. :D


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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby MikeB » Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:08 am

It is not unusual to ride into Vegas in August. I've done it but it is always well over a 100 degrees on a daily basis. Looking at Weather Underground tonight, the temps for the week are averaging 104.

When I was there a few years ago around the end of July, it was 109 at 9:00 pm. We stayed for three days. We were in the Circus Circus and didn't do any riding in the area, too frigging hot. We walked between our rooms over to the casino, through the air conditioned hallways; ate, slept and stayed merry. We left on the fourth day EARLY in the morning trying to escape the heat.

In my opinion, riding through Vegas in the summer is okay as long as you have a cooler destination in store for you.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:30 am

It was 109*F when I rode through Lost Wages in Sept 10, one year.
If you have a hotel room with good A/C to retreat to, not so bad, but not my idea of a destination to ride to at that time of year. :|

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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby themainviking » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:29 am

I stayed in Vegas in June one year on the way to Hanford Cali. It was 112 during the day, so like a previous poster, we stayed inside circus circus, room to restaurant to casino to room in the A/C. Left for California at midnight and it was still 104, but no sun beating down. The trip back to New Mexico, we came through the Mojave desert and it was a couple degrees hotter than Vegas, and when we dropped down into Needles it went up 5 more. The bike don't care. We got kinda fried. It is all dry heat, so it is really hot and you have to stay hydrated, but its not as bad as if it had humidity too. Lottsa water is the key.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:41 am

Thanks for all the replies. He has plans on using the hotel as a base and then riding to local attractions. Neither one of us are into gambling, at least not with money. :lol: (But we like the food in casinos!)
The heat is what really concerns me the most. I always carry water and for the desert, I would carry more.
After a couple days in Vegas, he has plans to ride to I-70 and back east to Denver.
Do I need to check my tire pressure more often due to the heat? I just don't have any experience riding in the desert. :(
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:46 am

No need to double check tire pressures IF they both are kept right up around the 40 - 42 PSI mark.
It's lower tire pressures that are the problem in the heat ... besides, higher tire pressure when checked on a cold tire in the morning will give you 'crisper' handling and a cooler running tire! :)

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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:54 am

Thanks for the advice. Not running quite that pressure in the front tire, but running 45 in the rear. Oh I went double darkside with a Goodyear Assurance and a Bridgestone BT45 on the front, (which is awful on tar snakes.) :roll:
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:40 pm

Yup, I agree.
It ties with the OEM K177 as the worst handling, non confidence inspiring tire I've tried up front. :x :evil:
Like I said, if you bump that front tire up to at least 40 PSI, not only will the tire run cooler, but handling will improve as well ..... but not over tar snake/grates/road imperfections! :roll:

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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:54 pm

Alright. I can bump it up a bit. Just want to do what I can to avoid being stuck on the side of the road. (Got a plug kit but would rather not use it.) :lol:
Now he is riding a Harley and has inner tubes in his tires. I suppose he should also bump up the air pressures in his tires for the same reasons?
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:10 pm

Same principles apply!

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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:48 am

Thanks for all the information. This is good information to know and I have been passing it on to my riding partner, Jerry. :D
He's my cousin and riding partner and the one that always puts trips off. :roll:

Right now he's looking forward to going to Maggies Diner in New Mexico, Hoover Dam, Las Vegas, to some California mountains, I-70 west of Denver (because that's real pretty) and then ????

My wife says she'll believe he's going on this trip when she sees him pull up in the driveway, on his bike, packed for a trip. I can't blame her. :lol:
He came over a few days ago on his 2011 Harley he bought New in December 2010. He has 6,500 miles and change on it. I pointed out to him the first long ride I took on my Goldwing was a little over 4,000 miles. Well, that's what he wants to do. ;)
We will see.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby cardinal » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:19 pm

Average High for August is 102 and average high in September is 94, for Vegas. I don't think you'll have that much of a problem with the heat, because humidity is generally below 20%. I think you're used to a LOT higher humidity than that.
That dry heat will suck the moisture out of you in a hurry....DRINK LOTS OF WATER!!

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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:38 am

He has planned this trip for the end of August. So hopefully the temps won't be too oppressive. The lower humidity will be a big plus.
The temperature here has remained under a hundred, in the eighties and nineties, but the heat index has been as high as a hundred and five.
It doesn't take long to work up a sweat and for a fat man to start huffing and puffing! :lol:
(I need to lose some weight!)
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:13 am

Here's a chart I dug up that shows the correlation between heat and underinflated tires, as recommended by the tire manufacturer, not the motorcycle manufacturer which usually wants you to run underinflated tires for a more 'cushy' ride.
Like I said, keep those pressures up!


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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:35 am

Darn it! :(
I don't have a computer to view the chart you're trying to show me, just this little Wally World cell phone.
When I expand the picture, the words and numbers get too fuzzy to read. :(
I'll just have to make sure my cold tire pressure is at least 40 psi and when they're hot, the temps not so high it scares me.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby MikeB » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:43 am

The chart is virtually unreadable with any phone or computer. Without a decent picture of it, it is really unusable.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:55 am

Oops. Sorry Wal-Mart. :oops:
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:25 pm

Let's try this then. Best I can do ....



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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby MikeB » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:12 pm

Looks better and easier to read now. Thanks.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:06 pm

Thank you. That is a lot better. I can't make out everything, but I can make out enough to see I don't want to run tires low on pressure. :o
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby dingdong » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:22 am

I wish you a good and safe ride. I think you are worrying too much about your tires and not enough about the heat. If your tires are in good condition they won't be a problem at all due to the heat. You on the other hand will suffer because of it. August is the second hottest month in that area. 103º is the average august temp in Las Vegas. Whatever others say, any temp over 100º is oppressively hot no matter the humidity. I don't mean to be a spoil sport but you should be prepared. I would carry, at least, one of the small 6 pack ice chests in the trunk to keep water in. Don't forget your sunscreen either. Hope your friend shows up. :lol:
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 am

I've got the small ice chest I can carry 6 bottles of water in. And I've got a tube of spf 50 sunscreen already on the bike. (Just got to remember to use it. :lol: )
Been shopping for some light, long sleeve shirts. On my last trip I noticed almost every highway construction worker was wearing a long sleeve shirt no matter how hot it was.
I do appreciate all the advice and I'll carry as much water as I can.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby Dusty Boots » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:45 pm

Either a light coloured LS shirt, or a tank top/SS shirt and a pair of shorts under a mesh jacket/mesh riding pants for complete sun (and crash) protection.
I keep a 2 litre water bladder on the rear seat of my bike (usually in a small soft sided Polar Bear cooler), with a long enough drink hose that I can slip the hose under my helmet's chin strap to sip out of the bladder while riding, making sure I get plenty of fluids while riding in longer rides in the SW.



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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby themainviking » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:35 pm

OldZX11Rider wrote:Right now he's looking forward to going to Maggies Diner in New Mexico


If your cousin wants to go to Maggies for food, he just may be out of luck. I do not think it is a working restaurant. I think it was just a stage prop for the Wild Hogs Movie, however, it is a building in Madrid, so I do not know what they are using it for. Sante Fe is not far from Madrid, and if it is Mexican food he is looking for, then the Pecos Trail Restaurant, 2239 Old Pecos Trail, Santa Fe, NM 87505 has food to die for. Their Huevos Rancheros with red or green chili are a most excellent way to start your day, and their tamales and enchiladas are fantastic. Steak ain't bad either. I wholeheartedly recommend this restaurant. They are authentic food, as opposed to a lot of tourist restaurants in Sante Fe and elsewhere in New Mexico.
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Re: Las Vegas question.

Postby OldZX11Rider » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:28 pm

He knows Maggies Diner is just a tourist attraction selling "Wild Hogs" t-shirts. I was there a couple years ago. (He was irritated I went without him.)
We'll have to make a point of stopping in at the Pecos Trail for a meal. Most of the "Mexican" food I eat is from Taco Bell. :lol:
I like the idea of having a water bladder for a cool drink whenever I wanted. I'll find one of those somewheres. There's a Cabelas fairly close by and the Bass Pro Shop isn't that far away in Springfield, Missouri. :D


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