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'83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by Phunnybone » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:31 am



Thinking of adding a baby wing to the stable. However, the current owner states that the gas tank needs to be de-rusted etc (I can do that no prob) because "a piece of rust went through one of the carbs". How serious an issue is that and would it have done engine damage?

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:23 am

I doubt any piece of rust that would be large enough to cause engine damage could make it through the fuel system,filters and jets.
Water on the other hand can.Look at the oil.
Rust could plug up the carbs.So expect to be removing them for cleaning.
I'd be trying to roll the engine over before buying it.
Even in 5th gear and turning the rear wheel should be enough.
If you can't roll the engine over,I'd shy away from it,It may be rusted solid in the pistons.

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Post by Phunnybone » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:13 pm

Thanx virgilmobile. Went and took a look at it today. Dead battery, but jumper cables from car got it to turn over but not start (gas smelled old). Otherwise, looks to be in decent shape. So I put a deposit down on it. Looks like I'll be learning how to rebuild and sync carbs soon.

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Post by virgilmobile » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:24 pm

Good that it rolled over.Keep us posted on the progress.

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Post by Phunnybone » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:29 pm

I'll finalize the sale at the end of the week. Then I get to start working. I just think it sat too long with old gas.

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by rodee71 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:43 am

This isn't the one I saw at the dealer in Harrisonberg, is it?

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Post by Phunnybone » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:04 am

No, the one in Harrisonburg was a GL500. I test drove that one and it just didn't ride quite like I expected a 500 would.

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Post by Wingsconsin » Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:57 am

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Post by Phunnybone » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:34 pm

Thanx wingsconsin - now I'll have two forums to monitor constantly :)

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Post by Elmonda » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:41 pm

I'm about to go look at and possibly buy a '83 gl650 silver wing. I know my cars but this would be my first bike (not first ride that was a 86 radian; nice bike) just need to know major things to check when inspecting bike obviously I'm going to make sure engine sounds good and drives well but anything else I need to look into? Responses are appreciated faster the better I'm looking tomorrow.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:26 pm

I had an '81 silverwing interstate GL500i. it was a nice bike. I cant say anything bad about it other than after riding it for over 2 years and putting on over 25,000 miles in it I found that I outgrew it and needed something a little larger and heaver with better,(how can I say this)...stability out on the interstate highways since that's where I do most of my riding.

below is a pic of the silverwing I had before I traded it even-up for my GL1100 aspy. I rode this bike down to the Florida keys 2 years ago and it did good, but like I said, the only thing I didn't like about it, it was very unstable when I got behind any large vehicles, IE: 18 wheelers, motorhomes and busses. it wants to wander in the lane and controlling it was a little difficult at times. it was also susceptible to cross winds. the fuel mileage was great, approx. 50mpg highway/40 city. adjusting the valves was really easy and rebuilding the carbs was a breeze because you only have 2 to deal with. if you have to adjust the valves, instead of what the book shows, I went .001 over book specs. it made the engine a little quieter. the valves on the GL500 and the 650, if you go with the book specs, they have a tendency to make the engine run a little loud. don't forget, its only a 2 cylinder, but you can run it on regular 87 octane. top speed on mine was 82mph.

all in all its a good bike.

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by 702scottc » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:03 pm

I had a 1983 CX650C I picked up from my neighbor 12 years ago. He couldn't get it running so I think I paid him $300 for it. I went thru it and rode it for a bit, I was going to try and get my wife to ride it.. That bike ran great. That Vtwin had a lot of torque and would really move. Easiest bike I ever owned to work on. It was way too small for me so I sold it and made a nice profit. The engine always reminded me of a MotoGuzzi.

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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:00 am

702scottc wrote:I had a 1983 CX650C I picked up from my neighbor 12 years ago. He couldn't get it running so I think I paid him $300 for it. I went thru it and rode it for a bit, I was going to try and get my wife to ride it.. That bike ran great. That Vtwin had a lot of torque and would really move. Easiest bike I ever owned to work on. It was way too small for me so I sold it and made a nice profit. The engine always reminded me of a MotoGuzzi.
if taken care of, that parallel v-twin was practically bullet proof.

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Post by 702scottc » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:39 am

Ya, it's a shame that engine design never caught on with people. I actually liked the look. 60 degree V engines build good power at low rpm's. The Honda engineers put a lot of thought into that engine, too bad it wasn't bigger, I would have held on to that bike. If it was the touring model I definately would have, don't see many of them around. Unique.. I really liked the look of the crash bars..

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Post by 702scottc » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:48 am

Sorry, it's an 80 degree V not a 60 degree, I was thinking about something else.

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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:05 am

702scottc wrote:Ya, it's a shame that engine design never caught on with people. I actually liked the look. 60 degree V engines build good power at low rpm's. The Honda engineers put a lot of thought into that engine, too bad it wasn't bigger, I would have held on to that bike. If it was the touring model I definately would have, don't see many of them around. Unique.. I really liked the look of the crash bars..
I had a set of custom made highway bar built for it. it was made out of stainless steel and it bolted up to the lower radiator bolts, I had holes drilled into the outer ends of it, bought a pair of floorboards from an '84 aspy and fitted them onto the ends of the bar so I could have floorboards to stretch my legs and rest my feet on. I also had and still have a custom made trailer hitch built for it. it bolts up to the rear passenger foot pegs on the bottom and to the top where the luggage bags slide into. it could be used on any GL 500i silverwing and CX 500 silverwing. made out of solid steel, it weighs about 70lbs and has a 1 7/8" ball on it. both the highway bar and the trailer hitch cost me just under $275.00 to have made. if someone were to be interested in purchasing the trailer hitch, I would be willing to sell it for $125.00 plus shipping.

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by harvey01 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:16 am

702scottc,

I am not so sure that that style engine never caught on. Obviously MotoGuzzi has been selling motorcycles with a similar style engine for years.

And then Honda bumped the engine to 4 cylinders and put it in the ST1100 and ST1300. Now that engine has made it to the CTX.

And if you want a really new version of the engine look no further than the recently developed Motus.

I admit that my examples are not the same engine but they look similar which is a part of style. But this was a wonderful motorcycle whether a 500 or a 650.

If I were lucky enough to be buying this bike I would be planning to change all fluids, change the tires if more than 4 years old, probably have to rebuild the brakes, and once done ride the thing till it drops.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:54 am

harvey01 wrote:702scottc,

I am not so sure that that style engine never caught on. Obviously MotoGuzzi has been selling motorcycles with a similar style engine for years.

And then Honda bumped the engine to 4 cylinders and put it in the ST1100 and ST1300. Now that engine has made it to the CTX.

And if you want a really new version of the engine look no further than the recently developed Motus.

I admit that my examples are not the same engine but they look similar which is a part of style. But this was a wonderful motorcycle whether a 500 or a 650.

If I were lucky enough to be buying this bike I would be planning to change all fluids, change the tires if more than 4 years old, probably have to rebuild the brakes, and once done ride the thing till it drops.
there are a few of the silverwings on craigslist for sale, but the owners want WAY too much for them. a good one in good condition is going for between $2,000-$3,500 dollars. here's a few you can pick up cheap..........4893869236 and this one........4870822251 and this one..........4839924774

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by Elmonda » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:26 pm

Elmonda wrote:I'm about to go look at and possibly buy a '83 gl650 silver wing. I know my cars but this would be my first bike (not first ride that was a 86 radian; nice bike) just need to know major things to check when inspecting bike obviously I'm going to make sure engine sounds good and drives well but anything else I need to look into? Responses are appreciated faster the better I'm looking tomorrow.
P.s. $800 20k miles about all I know.
..... Still waiting on a good response but I did my own research checking if odomiter has been changed or removed, obviously the fluids and inside gas tank, rust on bottom of exhaust, and running engine is all I can think of. +good shifting tranny.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:41 pm

Elmonda wrote:
Elmonda wrote:I'm about to go look at and possibly buy a '83 gl650 silver wing. I know my cars but this would be my first bike (not first ride that was a 86 radian; nice bike) just need to know major things to check when inspecting bike obviously I'm going to make sure engine sounds good and drives well but anything else I need to look into? Responses are appreciated faster the better I'm looking tomorrow.
P.s. $800 20k miles about all I know.
..... Still waiting on a good response but I did my own research checking if odomiter has been changed or removed, obviously the fluids and inside gas tank, rust on bottom of exhaust, and running engine is all I can think of. +good shifting tranny.
what you need to do is the same for any other bike you might purchase. check everything, motor, exhaust, lights, horn, shocks, by the way, the silverwing has one mono shock for the rear and its located on the swing arm under the bike in the middle of the frame, also the front forks are air forks, make sure they have air and hold their pressures. if the mono shock has air in it, it will act like a regular set of shocks, IE: if you sit on it, the bike will squat down, if you ride it and it bottoms out, the shock needs air,( normal is 70-100lbs and 110lbs max) or it might need to be replaced. you can find the mono shock on eBay as well as the front forks which if memory serves me correctly is 11-20lbs.

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Post by Elmonda » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:06 pm

Just a followup I did end up buying the bike. Drove and ran just fine however the guy said it use to have a cross over muffler that goes under the bike that he cut out and patched up the exhaust the exhaust now comes out of the pipes by my feet a little, just enough to keep my akles warm lol (was 35deg and I drove it about 15miles burrr) I plan to get it welded to fix that. My question is does any1 know anything about this and done similar modifications to theirs? The guy I got it from said it made it a little better on the power side but I noticed crusing at 55mph it stays at about 5k rps... Is this normal for this bike? If so doesn't seam like it could be all that fast on top speed. Any advice on the issue? Should I weld the leaks or try to replace and restore to original? Any1 want to contact me directly my email is Randypringle94@gmail.com if needed I would give you my # from there.
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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by Wingsconsin » Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:58 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:LOTS of help and good information on this forum...
LINK ----> http://cx500forum.com/

You will have access to many people who love those machines and they can help guide you through the restoration and updates it will need.
Having owned 3 of these Twisted Twins over the years I can speak a little about them.
The first thing is make yourself familiar at the above link... The CX Forum is the BEST for that bike
Those Twins LOVE RPMs - Do not worry about 5500 -- that IS cruising RPMs - they will run ALL DAY at that level without missing a beat.
The redline is way up near 9K or more (if I remember correctly) -
The only thing I didn't like about highway riding was at 7000 RPMs it got a little "buzzy" - But maybe a 650 is better ? All mine were 500's
Fuel economy should be in the 50 MPG+ range. Service the oil and valve adjustments regularly. Change coolant every 2nd year at the most. 100,000 miles is a real number for expected life of that motor.

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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:13 pm

just like wingsconsin said, you take care of that motor, and no reason it shouldnt last you a good 2-300,000 miles. they are practically indestructible. one this I did find out about with my friends gl500i AND mine was that for some reason the shifter wasn't going to 5th gear, what I had to do was take the shift lever off and move it counterclockwise so it would engage into 5th gear.

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Post by Wingsconsin » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:23 pm

Here are pictures of the last 2 I have owned...(CX500's) The Blue one was a flip I did..It had 25,000 miles on it.
Previous owner did a water pump seal replacement but never got it running right..I did the carbs and the brakes and the maintenance that had been deferred and it was purring like a kitten when I sold it. The guy who bought it was going to paint it Pink for his wife to ride.

The maroon one was my sons first bike. He put about 7,000 miles on it in the year we had it. - It only had 13,000 miles on it when we traded it for his GL1100I ...





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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:49 pm

VERY nice pair of silverwings. love the red and black one. very fine example of 2 of Honda's best..........in case anyone's interested, I have a custom made trailer hitch that will fit those 2 bikes, the GL500i interstate and the GL 650i perfectly.

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