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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by Elmonda » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:19 pm



Just curious what does any1 think of this cover? Will it fit gl650 with faring and hard cases? EBay number 171557298794


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Post by trike lady » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:33 pm

The red is an easier color to get, it seemed to have been popular.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 12:39 pm

Elmonda wrote:Just curious what does any1 think of this cover? Will it fit gl650 with faring and hard cases? EBay number 171557298794
hey elmonda, try these item numbers on eBay......221707634932, and.....121574408509. let me know what you think.

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Post by Elmonda » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:35 pm

trike lady wrote:The red is an easier color to get, it seemed to have been popular.
Agreed however that's why I want to go with silver and just got a "new to me" helmet today.
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Post by Elmonda » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:50 pm

roadwanderer2 wrote:
Elmonda wrote:Just curious what does any1 think of this cover? Will it fit gl650 with faring and hard cases? EBay number 171557298794
hey elmonda, try these item numbers on eBay......221707634932, and.....121574408509. let me know what you think.

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Yeah thats the kit I need for the decals but can't afford it this season i was hoping to find 1 around $50. The bike is at a Honda shop right now getting rear tire, and full inspection. Possibly rear break pads too and anything they may notice absolutely needs to be done but I don't think anything could need to be done for I drove it there. Now that cover looks fine but I don't see a difference in that 1 and 171557298794 other than price.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:08 pm

Elmonda wrote:
roadwanderer2 wrote:
Elmonda wrote:Just curious what does any1 think of this cover? Will it fit gl650 with faring and hard cases? EBay number 171557298794
hey elmonda, try these item numbers on eBay......221707634932, and.....121574408509. let me know what you think.

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Yeah thats the kit I need for the decals but can't afford it this season i was hoping to find 1 around $50. The bike is at a Honda shop right now getting rear tire, and full inspection. Possibly rear break pads too and anything they may notice absolutely needs to be done but I don't think anything could need to be done for I drove it there. Now that cover looks fine but I don't see a difference in that 1 and 171557298794 other than price.
lol, your not gonna find that decal kit for that cheap, but if you do, more power to ya. you have rear disk brakes on your s/w? mine had conventional rear shoes. I took a look at the bike cover you have the number for, and it looks good. I had the same one for my s/w. one word of caution, be gentle when you tie it down onto the bike, its possible it can rip apart especially from the "O" rings. remember the adage, "you get what you pay for" ;)

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Post by Elmonda » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:01 pm

I have no idea what breaks it has honestly. As I said before I know my cars but bikes (specially shaft driven) are new to me. I know i can see front breaks but the rear are all inside the cover. This is why I want the Honda shop to check everything.
Thanks for the advice :)
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:11 pm

Elmonda wrote:I have no idea what breaks it has honestly. As I said before I know my cars but bikes (specially shaft driven) are new to me. I know i can see front breaks but the rear are all inside the cover. This is why I want the Honda shop to check everything.
Thanks for the advice :)
ok, if you cant see the rear brakes that means they are on the inside of the rear housing which means you have brake shoes, not pads. disk pads are only used for vehicles with brake calipers. is there a rod going from your foot brake pedal to the rear on the left side of the rear hub?

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Post by Elmonda » Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:04 pm

Lol my bad I didn't mean rear break pads I figured they were drums but all the same I'm having them check.
Not sure if its a rod or a cable but I do know it needs adjusting in the rear, I nearly have to pit my foot vertical before I get any rear breaking.
By the way I got a repair manual used for a little over $12 and after I bought it found another for $9 lol :roll:
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:14 pm

Elmonda wrote:Lol my bad I didn't mean rear break pads I figured they were drums but all the same I'm having them check.
Not sure if its a rod or a cable but I do know it needs adjusting in the rear, I nearly have to pit my foot vertical before I get any rear breaking.
By the way I got a repair manual used for a little over $12 and after I bought it found another for $9 lol :roll:
yeah, I know about the prices, I've bought things at what I thought was a good price, only to find that after I bought it, another one came along at a cheaper price.

ok, now for your brake problem...........first, put the bike on its center stand. that rod has an adjuster nut on the end of it. pull the back on the spring so you can rotate the adjusting nut clockwise, that will bring up the brake pedal so you wont have to push down on it so far. tighten the nut just enough to get just a touch of drag on the back wheel when you turn it by hand. be careful, once that pedal is adjusted up, you'll find that your rear brake will have more stopping power than you realize. it will take a few times of using it to get used to the way it feels.

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Post by Elmonda » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:12 pm

Yeah I noticed the adjuster nut and where it is seams easy enough but I figured I would wait until they got the new tire on before I mess with it. Heck maybe they'll even adjust it when they notice it at the Honda shop, I mentioned it to them. As always thanks for the good advice I appreciate it. :)
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:55 pm

Elmonda wrote:Yeah I noticed the adjuster nut and where it is seams easy enough but I figured I would wait until they got the new tire on before I mess with it. Heck maybe they'll even adjust it when they notice it at the Honda shop, I mentioned it to them. As always thanks for the good advice I appreciate it. :)
once the shop has the rear wheel off the bike, you might as well let them do an inspection of the rear shoes. if they look low, let them replace them and the retaining springs as they get weak over time. they are very tight and a pain in the a** to get off and back on again. I replaced the ones on my silverwing and it took me a couple of hours. trust me, it will be worth it to have them do it, and then the can adjust up the rear wheel at the same time.

below is a photo of what your brakes look like inside the rear hub on your bike. on the top of part #9 with the 2 little holes is where the spring then the rod goes thru. the adjusting nut sits behind it. pull forward on the spring, that will give you some slack on the adjusting bar to turn the adjustment nut clockwise. depending on how loose the shoes are, you might have to loosen the pinch bolt, #14 and remove the lever and move it up or down on the splines then re-adjust it. sorry I forget which way it should move to take up the slack :?. its been a while since I had mine lol.

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Post by Elmonda » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:18 am

$35 for them to do it. They just called me and let me know they need to be done I told them go ahead so long as there not charging me labor since they have the assembly off anyways for the tire.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:20 am

very good idea. when you get the bike back and take it out for a "test" ride, be careful how you press on the brake pedal. im sure it will feel very different than when you first got it.

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Post by Elmonda » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:53 pm

roadwanderer2 wrote:very good idea. when you get the bike back and take it out for a "test" ride, be careful how you press on the brake pedal. im sure it will feel very different than when you first got it.

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Defiantly will do, don't want to mess up my new tire first day. Lol
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:20 pm

Elmonda wrote:
roadwanderer2 wrote:very good idea. when you get the bike back and take it out for a "test" ride, be careful how you press on the brake pedal. im sure it will feel very different than when you first got it.

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Defiantly will do, don't want to mess up my new tire first day. Lol
I was thinking more on the lines that it will make you lurch forward on the seat and slide up onto the tank lol. that would be a definite no no not to mention might hurt too :oops:.

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:14 pm

Lol touché. Yeah when I stopped I only thought "wow so that's what the rear breaks are supposed to feel like."
I keep meaning to take better pictures of the blemishes in the bike and post them up but I keep forgetting while I have the bike. I will be doing that tomorrow.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:20 pm

I told you it would big a big difference. I bet they work real good now huh. ;)

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:41 pm

Yeah they went from nearly no breaks to full.
I am going to do a oil change today, and I need a bit of information; is the motorcycle oil change just like a cars? (Eg. Seals, filter) how much oils does it take and what's the best oil and filter to use? 33k miles fast responds appreciated. (Copied and pasted from CX forum I posted there too but figured y'all would respond faster:-))
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:06 pm

Elmonda wrote:Yeah they went from nearly no breaks to full.
I am going to do a oil change today, and I need a bit of information; is the motorcycle oil change just like a cars? (Eg. Seals, filter) how much oils does it take and what's the best oil and filter to use? 33k miles fast responds appreciated. (Copied and pasted from CX forum I posted there too but figured y'all would respond faster:-))
give me a few minutes and i'll have some answers for ya.

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:13 pm

Wow 25mins. Do you have a notification on your phone or something? Lol I knew you'd be faster. :-)
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:29 pm

Elmonda wrote:Wow 25mins. Do you have a notification on your phone or something? Lol I knew you'd be faster. :-)

lol, yeah, im pretty quick since im always sitting in my computer room at my desk. I can watch my TV from where I sit ;), so being at my computer im almost always online. I do a lot of research and stuff, but just because im not logged in HERE, doesn't mean im not online...........ok, the filter, if you want a K&N, its part number KN111 and it sells for $11.59, and if you want to go cheap, (which is what I would do), you can get a Fram filter, part number CH6007 and it sells for $5.39 and both of these can be gotten at Advance auto parts stores, or you should be able to get the Fram filter at any parts store and maybe at kmart or walmart since its a popular filter. the oil, you can use 10W-40. the bike,(if memory serves me correctly), holds 4.1 qts including the filter. I would put 4 qts in, start it up and run it until the oil light goes off then check it before adding that .1 qt. 2 important things, when you change the filter replace ALL the rubber "O" rings that come with it, you'll have one large one for the filter housing, and a smaller one that goes on the filter bolt. make sure you replace both of them. also make sure you put the spring back in too. take the filter apart and put it back in the reverse order it came out.

attached is a photo of what your filter looks like inside the housing with all its associated parts. it sits next to the clutch cover on the bottom of the motor. put you mouse over the picture and left click on it to enlarge it.

here's something you might want to take a look at........ http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/ ... 650_83.htm it gives you all the specs on your s/w. copy and paste it into a new address bar and it should take you right to it. since you now have a manual, look up the torque specs on the oil filter cover bolt. I don't remember off hand what it is suppose to be.

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:53 pm

Blemishes.
Obviously the rust.
Any1 have the same problem with the exhaust? It comes out by my feet the staining shows that but on the left side the big black is actually the rubber from my boot. I guess I'll have to get use to holding my foot away and shifting with my big toe.
The faring On the left side you can see the little break.
Oh the silver wing pieces are mostly where the pinstripes are faded.
Just the stuff I plan on fixing. Asap

Oh yeah changed the oil.... Didn't even take 4qts I figured I'd just drive it and check it often after driving. Went with your word and just bought 1gal of 10w-40
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Re: '83 GL650 Silverwing

Post by roadwanderer2 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:33 am

there's really nothing you can do about the cracked fairing unless you take it off and do a fiberglass repair from the inside, or get another one, or get a piece of plastic, cut it to the shape of it and screw it down over the crack.

the exhaust, you might be able to use very fine steel wool to get that black off unless there's a leak from there. the only way to test it is start the bike up, put your palm over that spot without touching it and "goose" the throttle a few times and feel if there's any air coming out of that spot. my s/w did the same thing, but mine had a hole in it and the exhaust was leaking from it in that very same place.

the rusted spots, the only thing that's going to fix that is if you sanded it down with some 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper, use grey primer from a spray can, resand it down, prime it again, light sand the primer, then spray it with the top coat from the silver paint you had digitally made, but remember this, and its important, when ever you go to put fuel in the tank, if any of it splashes up onto the tank, its going to stain that paint and you'll have to do it over again because if you use spray paint from a spray can, it doesn't have the hardener in it to keep it from coming off again. even if you put clear over it, it wont help. been there, done that.

I see what your talking about with that part behind the passenger seat. luckily its in good shape. all you have to do is when you get your color made, remove it from the seat, tape up or remove the Honda name tag, scuff it down, prime it, wet sand it, then shoot it with your fresh color paint and it will look as good as the rest of your bike and it will match. if your going to use silver as your top coat, use grey sandable automotive primer. the top coat and primmer has to match, as in acrylic lacquer or enamel. you can use acrylic over lacquer, but you cant use enamel over acrylic lacquer or enamel. the properties wont match and the paint will come out looking like an orange, that's called "orange peel". read the can labels very carefully before you apply the paint. your best bet is going to your auto body paint supply shop and ask them about it before you do any spraying as to what you should use. I took auto body in high school as a major and worked in a few body shops painting vehicles.

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Post by Elmonda » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:45 pm

Yeah I plan on fixing the faring from the inside with some fiberglass.
The paint I kinda figured any gas leaked would ruin I need to paint with something that can take some drops because as we all know it happens often. I know grinding and painting is the only solution to rust and the longer its there the bigger it gets
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Yeah there is a leak from the exhaust on both the sides of the bike and both sides of the adapter like peices. I am going to clean it up with green scratchies(also works great on paint and chrome) and steel wool. Then have a master welder friend weld them shut then grind flush and repeat.


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