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Post by Wingsconsin » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:55 pm



..Just to be clear -- these were both the non-GL variant..
These are both the CX Custom style (smaller tank, chopped seat, cruiser)
The GL series of the twisted twin actually had some advantages internally as well as larger tanks, better seats, mono-shocks, air assisted balanced front forks, and some other things. (More designed for long distances)
These CX Customs were meant for city running although the Maroon one went all the way to Deals Gap and back with no problems..




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Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:19 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:..Just to be clear -- these were both the non-GL variant..
These are both the CX Custom style (smaller tank, chopped seat, cruiser)
The GL series of the twisted twin actually had some advantages internally as well as larger tanks, better seats, mono-shocks, air assisted balanced front forks, and some other things. (More designed for long distances)
These CX Customs were meant for city running although the Maroon one went all the way to Deals Gap and back with no problems..
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wow, that must have been a really nice ride with it from where you are and back again. I know both bikes and I wouldn't hesitate to ride either one, (the GL or the CX), of them down to Florida and back. I did it with my '81 GL500i interstate and I had only one problem and that was on the way back when my starter solenoid failed at a rest stop down in GA.

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Post by Elmonda » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:52 pm

The silverwing I ended up getting. Did end up having 30k+ miles. Just wondering any1 find somewhere to get the original silver wing decals? I'm looking to restore this bike to its former glory but I can't decide on maroon or silver what do y'all think. Anyways back to my question I need to find another of the silverWing emblems because my bike is missing1. I am also looking to find the rear trunk and a decal kit for I am going to repaint the whole thing. I found a decal kit on eBay but they want $113 for it. Oh yeah 1 more thing I'm looking for is the left faring cover I guess? The cover for the little left side pocket. Any help or suggestions is appreciated.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:20 pm

hey elmonda, yes, the decals for these older wings, be them the silverwing or the Goldwing are VERY expensive. now, when you say the left fairing cover, do you mean the lower section that bolts to the upper fairing or the left upper fairing pocket cover? the silverwing emblem is not going to be cheap either, and if you do happen to find one, the pins on the back of them might be broken off so you'll have to get some double sided tape like I did and stick them onto what ever your putting them onto. I had an 81 silverwing interstate so I know the bike very well and I know where to get parts for it. which emblem are you looking for and where is it suppose to be on the bike. I can send you leads to all the parts you'll need for your s/w. your bike would look good in either black or silver, but the black will bring up a better shine when its clean and waxed. mine was a faded light blue when I bought it, but I had it repainted black.

send me a list of what you need and i'll do the research for you and give you the numbers for them. below is a pic of the silverwing I had before I got my Goldwing. its nice to see another one of the silverwings back on the road again. I got a lot of complements on mine everywhere I went and parked.

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Post by Elmonda » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:42 am

I actually pulled the s/w decal off so I could post a picture of it and I will do so below. I'm looking for another or even a set of two would probably be better. Also looking for the pinstripes that go over the whole bike for repainting. As for the cover of the pocket im not sure if I have to original one or if its just make shift I will post a picture of that as well when i get to the bike later today. I think that's all I need really, other than finding the rear trunk would be nice too. More than anything this is my first owned bike and I want to make it shine. I figure another $400 or so and it will be looking really good the only bad part is from what I'm seeing decals will possibly be about the extent of my budget for this year. (I plan to paint it all myself and have a friend fix the small break in the faring.)
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:47 am

ok, other than the stock pin striping, the other parts will be fairly ease to find. they will all be from ebay so i'll get you all the "item numbers" so you can type them into the ebay searchbox. for the trunk, there's 2 different sizes, a small one and a tall one. i'll send you the numbers for both so you can chose which one you want.

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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:12 pm

ok, here's the item number for the silverwing emblem....191517256505 all these numbers im giving you are for eBay items. type each of the numbers into the eBay searchbox and it will bring up the page for it. from looking at your bike photo, you have the left fairing pocket cover already on it. is it ripped? anyway here's the item number for the fairing pocket cover....200874582001, if your going to put a trunk on the bike, there is two difference between the trunks on the 82-83, a short trunk without the center section and a tall trunk which has 3 sections to it, top, center, and bottom, also depending on which one you get, the lock latch is longer on the 81 than the ones on the 82-83. the trunk I had was the tall one so I was able to have more storage space in it. you might want to think about that if and when your getting a trunk for it. the short ones you wont have enough room to put your helmet inside, but with a tall trunk you can. here's your best bet, go onto eBay and type "83 silverwing trunk" into the searchbox, it will bring up a page with many of them on there. you can take your choice of which one you want. personally, I would go with the tall ones, but that's just me. as for your drivers seat, once again, go onto eBay and type "83 silverwing seat" into the searchbox and it will bring up the page with them on it, but be careful, check them all, pay close attention to the descriptions, some of them have rips and tears in them. don't buy the first one you see, look at all of them CLOSELY put your mouse over the picture so you can view them up close, or, you might want to just get a new cover for your front seat.

let me know if there's anything else you need me to find for ya.

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Post by Wingsconsin » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:09 pm

Wingsconsin wrote:LOTS of help and good information on this forum...
LINK ----> http://cx500forum.com/

You will have access to many people who love those machines and they can help guide you through the restoration and updates it will need.

Have you signed up for this FREE forum yet (see above link) ...?
There are 100's of really helpful people over there who love and know these twisted twins better than anything.
Some are truly professionals and will guide you through this process so easily it will make you cry...
I strongly recommend you ask some of these questions over there as well as here..., My 2¢
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:32 pm

hey wing, I tried to send him that link before but it only came up with a whole page of searches instead of the actual website.

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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:31 pm

I don't need it anymore, I removed myself after I traded my s/w and came onto this site.

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Post by Elmonda » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:32 pm

Thank you i tried finding that decal but guess i didnt type the right thing, i did buy the 1 yoi found so thanks.
Yes I have seen that other forum however the people here seam to be more responsive and helpful.
I guess if that's the cover for the pocket I have the right 1 it just looks makeshift; I was thinking it had a hard cover like the right side. As for the seat I was talking about the different passenger seat that goes with the trunk. The seats on the bike are perfect condition.
Now all that's left are the pin stripes and getting the right paint made which I will have a local paint supplyer do.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:48 pm

ok. the best way to match the paint that's already on since its most likely obsolete is to go to an auto body paint supply house, have them take a digital photo of the paint color that's on the tank and color match it. it will come very close to as original as it can get. then have the darker color,(the stripes), made up the same way using a digital photo of its color. I had to do that with one of my saddlebag lids and it came out so good, you wouldn't even notice its not stock original. that way you'll have both of the colors you need to do the repaint, or have it repainted one solid color and get pin stripe tape to outline the parts. black with gold, white, or red stripes would look really nice, but black with gold would look much better. just my personal opinion. when I had my bike repainted, I taped up all the gold stripes so I could still have them on the parts after it was painted. if you take a look at my bike photo, you'll notice that the stripes on the fairing, side covers, trunk and saddlebags are original.

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:22 am

I found the nimbus grey color code is NH125MU but I can't find the stripes color code "Achilles Black". I was thinking about covering the stripes with tape but theyvare damaged and I would be better off sanding down the whole thing and outing some more on it. I'll probably have to take it in for a digital photo like you suggested. I would like black too but I'm going for complete original which was the nimbus grey or whineberry red. I'm almost set to get started just need pinstripe decals (may wait until next season for that) and 1 more question does the 83 gl650 have Honda on the tank or just faring? If it does I'll have to find those in the original gold for the tank too.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:25 am

Elmonda wrote:I found the nimbus grey color code is NH125MU but I can't find the stripes color code "Achilles Black". I was thinking about covering the stripes with tape but theyvare damaged and I would be better off sanding down the whole thing and outing some more on it. I'll probably have to take it in for a digital photo like you suggested. I would like black too but I'm going for complete original which was the nimbus grey or whineberry red. I'm almost set to get started just need pinstripe decals (may wait until next season for that) and 1 more question does the 83 gl650 have Honda on the tank or just faring? If it does I'll have to find those in the original gold for the tank too.
some of them had the "Honda" name on the tank and some didn't, but from what I found, the majority of them didn't have the "Honda" name on the tank. your best bet for that if you want to see photos of other GL650's is go onto Bing, click on "images" in the upper left side of the page, and type in "1983 Honda GL650 silverwing interstate", and when a page comes up, it will show you images of a lot of different 650's in stock nimbus grey, wineberry red and other colors. that way you can get a better idea of all the colors that you can paint your bike in. the Achilles black, your probably going to have to have made up with digital photo imaging.

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Post by harvey01 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:17 pm

It won't show on their website, but call the folks at colorrite.com and they may have the silver paint Nimbus Grey. It was used on several models.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:53 pm

your lucky, my 83 Goldwing is nimbus grey and it cant be had anymore, which is ok with me because I don't particularly like the color. it looks to, how can I say....drab?

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Post by Elmonda » Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:49 pm

What do you meen lucky? Lol I'm having a heck of a time. Yeah I'll have to bring the bike in to have them match best they can. If I could I would rather buy a different rear peice in the grey/silver because the 1 that's on it is the maroon (obviously replaced) the small part right behind the passenger seat. That and a decal kit I still need to find. Found 1 but its $113 so if I find a cheap 1 I could get it all up to par this year and share before and after pictures soon. :)
Oh yeah that color code I gave apparently isn't..... Active anymore? Lol
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:20 pm

Elmonda wrote:What do you meen lucky? Lol I'm having a heck of a time. Yeah I'll have to bring the bike in to have them match best they can. If I could I would rather buy a different rear peice in the grey/silver because the 1 that's on it is the maroon (obviously replaced) the small part right behind the passenger seat. That and a decal kit I still need to find. Found 1 but its $113 so if I find a cheap 1 I could get it all up to par this year and share before and after pictures soon. :)
Oh yeah that color code I gave apparently isn't..... Active anymore? Lol
none of the colors for that bike are "active" anymore. like I said earlier, your best bet is have digital photos made to match both of the colors.

when you say the small part behind the passenger seat, your talking about the rear seat cowling that has the word "Honda" on it. that part has 2 screws on it and screws in under the rear seat. if that's the part im thinking that your talking about, go onto eBay and type 121581419224 into the searchbox, bring the page up and let me know if this is the part your talking about.

do you know how to remove the rear seat? and the side boxes? do you have a repair manual for it yet? if you don't have a repair manual yet, go onto eBay and type 380979303656 into the searchbox and it will bring up the listing for a repair manual for your bike.

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Post by MeneGene1971 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:41 am

I had an 82 Silverwing 500. I bought it used with around 5,000 miles on it and sold it with a little under 20,000. It was a great bike, I find myself wishing I still had it. I thought of a few signature characteristics/ issues to pass along. You already mentioned the high revs at cruising speed. I thought it was weird too for awhile. Between the high revs and the inherent quietness of the engine, I remember ducking down behind the little windshield that I had on it to listen to the engine and reassure myself that it was still running at 60 mph. It sounds like a high pitched hum. I always wished it had a 6th gear. Also I had a lot of fluid leaks that had to be addressed over time. The first was an oil leak which started small, then one day covered my whole right foot and pant leg with oil by the time I made it home. It was at the second seam in the engine block from the front of the engine. At the very front you have a mechanically driven cooling fan which is the first "block section", then behind that is another seam with its own gasket. I have seen/ heard of that being a consistent problem. Easy job, but time consuming. Gasket was cheap. Then another oil leak around the shift lever shaft. Also not difficult or expensive to fix. Then a coolant leak that required removal of the water pump and the water piping. I remember that one being a certified nightmare, but I was able to do it without taking it to a shop. Other than that, I had very few mechanical problems. Routine maintenance like oil changes, valve adjustments, etc are easy. If you find a Silverwing in good shape, address a few "old motorcycle" issues like bad gas, leaky seals, dry rotted tires, etc, you can potentially have a motorcycle that will run until you are tired of riding it- which is what happens to most of those bikes. People start wanting a bigger, better, more comfortable or powerful something or other and the poor old Silverwing gets put in a corner.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:29 am

hey MeneGene, you mentioned a few inherit problems about the 500 s/w, another problem was the cooling fan, my friend had a 83 GL500i, and his fan actually broke and went thru the radiator. that was another "weak" spot with them. as for a 6th gear, your right, it should of had one. those bikes would whine out the revs at high speed and created a "hum" at anything over 75mph. mine never had any oil leaks or the shifter shaft leak, but it did leak some oil from between the engine head and the valve cover on the right side.

don't get me wrong, it was a great "starter" bike, but like you said, a few years of riding it, you eventually wanted something a little bigger and more powerful. I loved my little s/w, but im glad I "upgraded" to a g/w.

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Post by Elmonda » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:01 pm

I do know how to take off the hard bags on that its fairly simple but the seat I just looked at the other day and no I don't know how to take that off yet. I don't have a manual yet but do plan on getting one shortly.
Yes that is what I'm talking about but not with the seat.
On a different note I don't think I will be painting this season for its nearly time to start riding and I'm inpatient, I figure next year and this winter I'll have plenty of time to get it done and won't feel anxious to get er done. So I can get it done right.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:54 pm

Use your key to unlock the saddlebag locks on the two sides. The levers will pull up, releasing the seat. Sometimes the levers must be pulled up HARD, you might hear a click, then pull the rear of the seat up and back. here's a something you might want to check out. it should be quite helpful for you....."Honda CX500 & GL500 Forum". type that into a "Bing" web search and it will bring up a page full of CX and GL sites you can go onto and ask anything you need to know about your bike, but your still welcome to come in here and ask someone like me that had one of those bikes. feel free to pm me anytime you need help with your s/w.

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Post by Elmonda » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:05 pm

roadwanderer2 wrote:Use your key to unlock the saddlebag locks on the two sides. The levers will pull up, releasing the seat. Sometimes the levers must be pulled up HARD, you might hear a click, then pull the rear of the seat up and back. here's a something you might want to check out. it should be quite helpful for you....."Honda CX500 & GL500 Forum". type that into a "Bing" web search and it will bring up a page full of CX and GL sites you can go onto and ask anything you need to know about your bike, but your still welcome to come in here and ask someone like me that had one of those bikes. feel free to pm me anytime you need help with your s/w.

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Thanks, that seams fairly simple too and useful so I can take my seat off every night. And I defiantly will pm you when I get other questions you seam very knowledgeable.
Thanks again.
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Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:28 pm

thanks elmonda I appreciate that. im only telling you things I know of the bike from my experiences with my own s/w. glad I can be of help. any time you need to know something about it, pm me and i'll try to come up with the answers for ya.

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