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Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by Bryster » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:37 pm



Hey guys,

Got a camper, no swivel hitch. Where is the best place to get one from?

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by RoadRogue » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:20 pm

Sorry I cant tell you where to get one , I am curious why you think you need one. With a standard 7/8" ball hitch I can lay my bike over onto the crashbars without any stress to the trailer tounge. If the bike and trailer ever get to the binding point then you have way more serious problems to deal with. I have read posts on another forum where the swivel snapped after the trailer hit a fair sized pothole at slow speed, the safety chains did their job and prevented a serious accident. Im of the thought that the swivel is just an unnessasary,complicated, weak point in an otherwise simple and effective hitch design. 8-)
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by dingdong » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:19 am

Look here for one option. However I'm am of the same opinion as RoadRogue. Totally unnecessary.
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by Bryster » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:53 am

Up front, first trailer I've owned for a bike.

Like most, I've poured over the net on stuff, and I keep getting references to crashes, flips, and 50/50 divided opinions about having one. I note a lot of trailer manufacturers are equipping them as well. Is this because they've seen a need? Or another marketing, 'well they sell them, so should we?'

I admit the F6 isn't going to lean like an ST/FJR/GTR, but as I've now got a trailer I'm looking into it. Doesn't appear to be many sellers here in Oz.

At the moment I'm tempted to fit the hitch to the bike and give it a shot without the swivel....

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Post by harvey01 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:40 am

Bryster, Adding a swivel hitch is sort of like wearing goggles or glasses when you ride. You don't need them till a bug, piece of dirt, or other object is flying toward your eyes. Or a helmet till something is flying toward you head or your head is heading to the pavement!

I was riding with a friend in a western state on interstate. He was riding a Yamaha Venture, which is a touring bike and at the time was competing with the Gold Wing 1500. He was towing a small Neosho trailer which was a few years older than the one I was towing. The left rear wheel hit a pothole and the trailer then bounced up in the air. As it approached vertical I just knew it was going all the way over but thankfully it did not! It wasn't saved by the swivel hitch he had on the trailer but by the many forces involved and a lot of luck.

But the swivel hitch kept the twisting action of the trailer from effecting the motorcycle and later when we stopped he stated that he realized the trailer had probably hit a pothole but he had no idea how close he came to it turning over.

You can probably contact the trailer maker and he might sell them, just about any builder of motorcycle trailers probably sell them and any dealer that sells the trailers. Dingdong has given you a great source to locate what you need. Like everything connected to tourers and trailers, it won't be cheap but worth your money.

Yes, you might trailer for thousands of miles without a swivel hitch with no problems, but it is a simple device that can save your bacon if needed.
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Post by minimac » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:57 am

I have to agree with Harvey01. Is it necessary? No. You may tow for thousands of miles and never need it, but the one time you do, it more than pays for itself. I've always felt it's better to be safe than sorry.

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Post by Bryster » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:26 am

Thanks for responses guys. So far the count is 50/50 again! :D

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by PastoT » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:35 pm

I have one on my Time-Out camper but not my HF Tag-Along. So I guess that's 50/50 also! I hope to add one to my Tag-Along as I have clipped bad road bumps at speed that I missed with the bike but felt the trailer fly up and land and it got me thinking about torque it could have put on my rear end. It will also add some tongue length that will ease the weight on the trailer hitch and provide more room for my cooler rack. I'd check with the camp trailer's manufacturer.
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by Lakelivin » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:49 pm

Hey Bryster, I just recently purchased a Lumina trailer from https://theusatrailerstore.com/. It came with a free swivel hitch. Haven't had the opportunity to haul it yet as I still need to purchase and install a good hitch. I'm sure if you check out their web site you could find what your looking for. I have zero experience hauling anything with my '06 1800 so I can't speak to the 50/50 issue. I just plan on taking it easy and learning as I go. Have to at my age...Lol. Good luck, safe riding and I hope you find what you're looking for. :D

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by PastoT » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:41 pm

I have to 2d Lakelivin's comment, just take it easy until you know how your trailer impacts your machine. Slow your turns, anticipate longer stops, leave more room between you and anything ahead of you and make sure your tongue weight 30lbs or more (prevents trailer wagging). I really think most don't buy a swivel hitch because of the cost, it actually half of the 50% that don't choose to use them - honestly it was what held me off on using one. Required no, good safety probably, but its always a choice of what is most immediately deemed important and can be afforded at the time.
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by blackbird » Tue May 02, 2017 10:26 am

Has anyone noticed any differences with or without a swivel hitch when towing a camp trailer behind an 1800 trike conversion?

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Post by WingAdmin » Tue May 02, 2017 10:54 am

blackbird wrote:Has anyone noticed any differences with or without a swivel hitch when towing a camp trailer behind an 1800 trike conversion?
Not sure why you would need a swivel hitch on a trike, as the trike never leans. I would expect that the swivel hitch would perform exactly the same as a regular hitch, and that you would notice no difference with the swivel hitch compared to a regular hitch, except for a lighter wallet.

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by Bryster » Tue May 02, 2017 11:30 pm

Well I got one from the seller of these campers in Perth, really reasonable cost, made in Ohio apparently,

Little bit of adapting...


Now to redo wiring to the lights then GO somewhere!

Thanks for the replies... decided to do it after watching a few videos of towing on bikes.

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by newday777 » Wed May 03, 2017 10:18 pm

Make sure your safety chains, if you use them in OZ, gattach at the trailer tongue and not the swivel coupler.

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Post by Bryster » Thu May 04, 2017 2:58 am

newday777 wrote:Make sure your safety chains, if you use them in OZ, gattach at the trailer tongue and not the swivel coupler.
Roger that, in that photo I'd not shifted the Jockey wheel forward I'm attaching the chains to the front bolt on the drawbar. The add on hitch has chain attachments at the bottom of the vertical receiver, using those.



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Post by hebert3007 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:41 am

I have one same as in the pic.by Beyster posted on may2 2017 was on a Bunkhouse that I baught used do not need I have CSC trike the owner used 3 times so it is like new price is $200.00 new Bunkhouse has them in accessories . Will sellers for $100 you pay shiping thanks Bernie ph 9898927526

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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by AZgl1800 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:26 pm

I see that you decided to get one, and I for one agree with your choice.

For me, it is the insurance policy if I ever have a situation where the trailer decides to try and flip my bike over...

I have a good friend who went to sleep on his 1500 and slowly went off the right side of the road, across a fairly gentle deep berm and up across the other side into a pasture, missing all of the trees and managed to keep the bike upright, never dropped it. Good thing no fences in that area.

The trailer, however, did a complete 360 flip rotation, as evidenced by his friend who was following him.
Too bad the friend did not have a dashcam, so all we have is "hearsay", but I know for a fact, that the 12 dozen eggs came through the experience with only one dozen of them broken. ( he was grocery shopping for our rally )

The NaySayers can espouse on the subject all they want, and I will not try to convince them otherwise. But I installed a very good swivel hitch that won't break, it has a 1 inch shaft and dual roller bearings.

For me, it helps to keep the trailer under control... I don't even notice it is behind me anymore, I have to look in the mirrors to verify that it has not come loose.

I'm quite sure that if it ever did, the safety chains would get my attention real fast.
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by 2008hockeyman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:09 pm

https://www.timeouttrailers.org/Swivelc ... oupler.htm

By far the best way to go for a swivel adapter for your tongue/coupler. Believe they are made in Ohio, the site above sells these. Fairly easy to adapt onto my Slip Stream utility pulled by the 08-1800. There was a bind before when leaning in curves, now I hardly know it is behind me. Highly recommended!!!
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Post by 2008hockeyman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:13 pm

Here is the swivel by itself
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Re: Swivel trailer hitch.

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:38 pm

No swivel on my trailer, but I do have a "narrow neck" ball on the bike, allows enough swivel the bike can even "take a nap" without binding the hitch (ya, done that :shock: )


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