New 2018 Goldwing Survey


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What are your thoughts regarding the new 2018 Goldwing?

It's fantastic in every way, I've already got my deposit in
6
1%
It looks pretty good, I'll consider buying one when it is available
24
5%
It's just too expensive for my tastes/budget
63
14%
The lack of storage space is a deal-breaker for me
69
15%
The great new technology is amazing
62
14%
Too much whizz-bang technology for me
17
4%
Honda concentrated too much on shaving weight and not enough on improving a great touring bike
73
16%
I don't care for a sport bike on steroids, I just want a comfortable tourer
59
13%
I love the prospect of a sporty tourer with exceptional performance
40
9%
I expected more considering what the competition has released recently
40
9%
 
Total votes: 453

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wingthing88
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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by wingthing88 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:44 pm



I have been an avid fan of Honda since I was about 7 years old(long long time ago)and fell in love with the goldwing when I saw my first one in 1975. I have loved almost every improvement made. I wasn't overly impressed with the GL1800 but i looked good. I am totally disappointed in the new wing I understand the theory behind the new front suspension but it looks like a maintenance nightmare and a high probability of parts failure. Automatic transmission? Less fuel? Less storage? More electronics? This sounds like a complete failure from the start. If Honda took a 1500 and added a 6th gear the world would be a perfect place.



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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by Swagonmaster » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:56 pm

One more post and I will quit, technology is not a bad thing, and is the norm nowadays and especially when it comes from Honda who doesn't like parts that break. (Don't belive it then buy a European made something and see how much you spend on maintenance). I sort of laugh at comments (mine and others) about the price of the new bike as I remember an older tech I worked with back in 1975. He was retirement age then and was in charge of new car predelivery at the Ford dealer I was working at. You could hear that old Italian fussing all over the shop "five thousand dollars for a FORD? They are crazy!" $25k or more is a lot of money no doubt, but I it buys a lot of bike. What we expect is very much colored by what we have had before.
OK, I wish that Honda had made some different choices as far as storage and so fourth but it may be that the new model will prove to be a real prize. (even if the aftermarket makes a killing selling larger bags)

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by ralphdud » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:31 am

As riding season is pretty much over in New England (they salted the roads around here recently) my 2013 F6B is already at my dealership on consignment / trade, and I'm signed up for a 2018 Red DCT Tour. I guess I'm a minority rider that doesn't need all kinds of luggage as I'm a day tripper at best, so the reduction of storage doesn't bother me. I had a 2010 Goldwing for a while, traded it for the '13 F6B as I personally found the full boat Goldwing to be just too ponderous for me. With the trimming down of the 2018, and the addition of ABS, GPS and other tech across the board, I think the redesigned Goldwing lands right in the center of my needs.

As far as reduction of fuel capacity, it remains to be seen, but I was never able to get the even the 2010 below 40 miles per gallon, the F6B routinely delivered 45, but when it comes to having an extra gallon of gas on board, Honda should have just left the room for it, another 1% of the bikes weight doesn't make much difference!

It's about time the technology was brought into the 21st century, (although perhaps there's almost an overabundance in some aspects?) 100% LED illumination is a welcome change.

As I am an aging (67) rider with nearly 50 years now off and on bikes, I guess I had to also come to realize that getting a bike with ABS, some sort of traction management, and even knuckle under and appreciate that DCT would allow some of the "attention budget" to be better focused on situational awareness, the 2018 should precisely fill the bill for me.

It would be likely that given enough marketplace demand, Honda might offer a bigger trunk, after all, they offer a trunk removal kit for the tour version, which means it's replaceable with something different. Heck, this means I could even have the option of taking the trunk of the Tour when I'm in an "F6B mood". It's unlikely it's a 15 minute procedure, although.

Everyone's situation is different, for some, the 2018 is perfect, for others, it's not, Honda is dealing with a worldwide market, we'll see if their efforts work out. One thing is for sure, the reactions to this release are pretty remarkable!

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by Mag » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:20 am

Hmmm, I hear a "2018 Goldwing Practical Review" in your future for the group ;)

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by MasterDaniel904 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:28 pm

Less storage = Less (zero) interest. I ride my GL1500 everywhere, but mostly to work. I'm a handyman. I carry a full tool bag in the right saddlebag, emergency gear in the left and the trunk holds job specific tools and materials, and I STILL put things on the rear seat, or on the trailer I tow. Didn't upgrade to the 1800 primarily for that reason (among others).

I installed an oversized windshield as I'm 6'2 and prefer not to freeze my neck off while winter riding. It doesn't need to go up and down, I have a garage to cover it when parked.

I don't want a bunch of fancy electronics. I went through 4 radios when I first bought the bike, fortunately off the dealer floor and under warranty.

Owning a '96 I have to do my own maintenance now as dealers want $150+ an hour for any bike more than 4 years old. I am not investing in any testers more than my pocket multi-tester. Costs me a few dollars to replace the lights in my dash, only now going out after 21 years. Anyone priced "dropping in" a new dash module yet when it goes? There ain't no repairing one of those. Change the oil without a center stand? I am not investing in a bike lift for oil changes.

The new suspension, transmission, engine? Great. Put it back into the body of a 1500 and I'm shopping for one tomorrow. Seriously. Just paid off my lady's Spyder last month and the money is in the budget. Cherry red please. Otherwise, I'll keep the '96 going as long as possible and then look elsewhere.

Curious. We talk of the 1100's 1200's 1500's 1800's, what is this one going to be called colloquially? The "Failure" to listen to the customer? The greatest "riding" bike in the world is going nowhere if it doesn't meet the customer's NEEDS.
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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by ceshaw » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:41 pm

My wife and I spend the summer on our bikes. Mine is a 2009 Wing and hers a 2009 Yamaha Royal Venture. I already have a travel bag on the rear seat for shoes and a few things that are awkward in the trunk. I hope the aftermarket can quickly come up with a solution for the itty-bitty storage capacity. I really like my 2009 but was hoping to buy a new bike this spring.. I looked at the new Yamaha but don't like to go back to a thumping twin or an air cooled engine. There are several real Touring Bikes with big bags. Aftermarket please get on this severe shortcoming for a Touring bike.

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by AaronzDad » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:11 pm

Yup, I agree with the other complaints here. I'm calling this the Goldwing Egg because Honda laid a huge one here. I think they're a Japanese company making Japanese bikes for Japanese people to ride in Japan - then they're trying to sell 'em in the USA. Americans aren't getting smaller and our gear ain't getting less. I want MORE storage and MORE fuel. I like having a BIG fairing and windscreen cutting the breeze for me. I want a LONGER bike so I'm not sitting with my feet behind my knees. Where the heck DO you put the highway pegs?

I don't want to fill up when the tank says "feed me or walk". I want to stop and fill up when it suits ME. I'd really love a bike with an eight or ten gallon tank, I don't care how long it is or what it weighs. Seriously, is weight even a consideration when you have a car-sized engine in a bike???

How are my wife and I supposed to go for four or five day ride with nowhere to put our gear? Toss in my leathers, her leathers, a few changes of clothes, toiletry and hygiene stuff, my travel humidor, our two compact folding chairs, and assorted other odds and ends... and we need a trailer.

I'm impressed with the technological developments. The front suspension change was long overdue and it looks like a brilliant solution. The dual clutch is definitely the future of transmissions. Whine all you want about computerized gizmos gadgets and gew-gaws but technology is here to stay and it's taking over the world. I'd really love to test ride one but I certainly would never buy one. They've turned a great touring bike into a crappy overweight street cruiser. I'm disappointed and disgusted.

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by Greenwinger » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:52 am

I must be missing something,(Not the first time, or the last) I have read a few comments that the touring has no center stand.(I can't belive "center" was not in the computer dictionary or belive) any ways, all the pictures and videos I have seen of the touring model standing still show it standing straight up I assumed on a center stand. Am I wrong????

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by IdahoHacker » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:53 am

Greenwinger wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:52 am
I must be missing something,(Not the first time, or the last) I have read a few comments that the touring has no center stand.(I can't belive "center" was not in the computer dictionary or belive) any ways, all the pictures and videos I have seen of the touring model standing still show it standing straight up I assumed on a center stand. Am I wrong????
It's an optional accessory. $150, I think.

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by twoweeled » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:41 am

minimac wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:14 am
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Does Honda want the Goldwing to be a sport bike or the turnpike tourer it's always been? It can't be both. As the tourer it was without equal and was the gold standard. As a sport bike, IMHO, it falls short of the STs, BMWs, or Concours. Heck, my 2006 650 Burgman Executive has an electrically adjustable windshield, automatic or shift manually transmission, and, even with the added 55 liter trunk and Corbin seat, cost far less than half of what the new 'Wing will cost.
As far as saving weight, is there really that big of difference whether it's 800 or 900 lbs once you're moving? I honestly don't know, but it wouldn't seem so. With the new engine design, I would have hoped for much better fuel economy, although finally offering the DCT is a nice option. Why not use the saved weight to increase the storage capacity of the trunk and give the sidebags more usable space without everything falling out of them when they're opened?
I waited along time before I finally bought my Goldwing. It's served me well for close to twenty five years so far. That's a good thing, because I'll most likely never have another.
You said it. My exact feelings. All things being equal, less weight is better. However, all things are not equal. We traded less weight for fewer attributes! I'm much more concerned with comfort (2018 seems to have a smaller seat and cockpit), longer range(2018 has a smaller fuel tank) and always more luggage capacity (they've noticeably reduced storage capacity). Those are keys to a long range touring machine! What was Honda thinking? The only possibility I can see, is Honda will be willing to redesign the plastic later and install larger luggage and seating. I doubt Honda can install a much larger gas tank. I think Honda had to reduce the fuel tank. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind intentionally reducing fuel capacity on a touring bike. They had too. More comfortable seating, larger cockpit, and luggage increased to previous size at minimum, would put me into contemplation mode. As the 2018 stands, I have no interest. None! Zero! Nada!

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by twoweeled » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:45 am

Greenwinger wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:52 am
I must be missing something,(Not the first time, or the last) I have read a few comments that the touring has no center stand.(I can't belive "center" was not in the computer dictionary or belive) any ways, all the pictures and videos I have seen of the touring model standing still show it standing straight up I assumed on a center stand. Am I wrong????
I think it's an option. I think the trunk is either an option or an upper level Goldwing? So,,,,is Honda now nickle and diming us on a $30,000 touring machine? That irks me even more! I feel like Honda is giving us the finger, and I'm giving it right back to Honda.

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by IdahoHacker » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:22 am

The center stand is standard on the Tour model. It's only an option on the non-Tour, (no trunk), model.

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Re: New 2018 Goldwing Survey

Post by Ralf_CT » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:34 pm

823JIM wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:02 am
Roypaul wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:15 pm

The less weight is awesome !
As for getting rid of the centre stand- best thing ever. I never ever ever use the damn thing because you need 3 people to lift the damn thing onto the stand!
I am 5'6" and just shy of 66 years old and have no problem at all putting my GL1800 on the center stand by my self. Sounds like you truly do need a lighter and smaller big.
Yes, it's all in the technique, if done correctly the bike literally rolls on to the center stand. No center stand will be challenging to those doing their own maintenance... even my PCX150 scooter has a center stand!


Ex GL1100 Interstate rider. Aspiring GL1500/1800 rider.

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