76 GL 1000 Start Problems


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76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby biggles58@me.com » Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:24 am



I would like some help in regards to my Start Problem. If I leave my GL 1000 standing for a couple of weeks it just will not start.
I have to have it in neutral because with the clutch in and first gear the bike wants to move forward. I have checked the spark on all four no problem. Fuel is getting into the fuel pump took the line off from the fuel filter all OK. Took the fuel cap off too.

So when I start the bike (10am this morning) it just turns and turns but just will not fire. It did the same two weeks ago and then 1 hr later it started. I pull the choke out full and one turn of the throttle and then engage the starter, I did smell fuel though today but did not start so back on the trickle charge it is.

OK it is now 12 hrs later it is 11pm at night I just tried to start my GL with the choke fully out but I did not turn the throttle "bingo it started" so can anyone tell me if they have the same problem and if they too think that I should not turn the throttle when starting as the bike is cold............Thanks



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Re: 76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby dingdong » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:05 am

The gl1000s are notorious for fuel evaporating from the carb bowls after sitting for a week or two. Mine does the same. With the mechanical fuel pump it takes a while to fill up the bowls. Nothing wrong with your bike it is just the nature of the beast. Switching over to an electric fuel pump will aid in filling up the carbs without having to crank the engine.
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Re: 76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:23 am

It sounds like your flooding the engine,eg the gas smell and the wait to start it with a hot battery.

My 78 was a bit annoying to start also when I first got it.
What I found....Opening the throttle had no affect as the gl1000 carbs do not have a accelerator pump in it.The 1100 carb does.
The point system is just OK at it's best,and poor with a weakend battery(25 seconds of cranking)

On mine,most of the time,I used no choke and just cracked the throttle a bit while cranking.If it didn't fire in 3-4 seconds,I'd add 1/2 choke and try again for 3-4 seconds.


There was 2 things I did to my 78 that improved the starting.

First I replaced the mechanical fuel pump with a electric pump because as the bike sets for weeks,the fuel can evaporate and it takes a bit of cranking to get them filled back up.

Also (it still had points)by the time the carbs get full,the battery is running down and the spark is getting weak.
So the second thing I did was to convert to electronic ignition.
After that,the bike was always easy to start.Seldom needing the choke and very little throttle to bring it to life.Usually 2-3 second crank.

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Re: 76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby biggles58@me.com » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 am

Hi Thankyou very much for your advice could you explain to me please what I could expect to pay for the Electric Fuel Pump and any advice is it easy to install I am not mechanically brilliant but leaning fast.

Thanks.

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Re: 76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:28 am

I left the original pump on the bike and just looped the 2 connections together.The electric pump came from a 86 Honda prelude car.It's rated at 3.5 psi.I used a piece of 1/8 x 1" metal and fabricated a bracket to hang it from the upper motor mount.It's placement isn't critical, but I did use all new hoses and clamps.The pump came from Advance Auto and cost about $60.The wiring is using a relay and a fuse to run the pump from the kill switch.

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Re: 76 GL 1000 Start Problems

Postby biggles58@me.com » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:18 am

virgilmobile wrote:I left the original pump on the bike and just looped the 2 connections together.The electric pump came from a 86 Honda prelude car.It's rated at 3.5 psi.I used a piece of 1/8 x 1" metal and fabricated a bracket to hang it from the upper motor mount.It's placement isn't critical, but I did use all new hoses and clamps.The pump came from Advance Auto and cost about $60.The wiring is using a relay and a fuse to run the pump from the kill switch.


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