Wondering if I should part it out as well...


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Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby jackal2 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:24 pm



I bought a '77 wing last summer and just got around to working on it. It had sat for a couple years and was hard to start but once I got it running it seemed to run well. A front caliper was stuck so I haven't been able to ride it. Wanting to be proactive I was working on changing the timing belts as well as some other maintenance for a bike that has been around a while. I knew that there was a problem with the centerstand and found out that the crossover tube was cracked and twisted a bit but it doesn't look like there is a lot of rust there even though I know that most of it will be internally. But to get to the point, when I was removing the crash bars and the radiator it looked like the downtube on the right side of the bike was cracked. After poking around with a screwdriver I found out the bike must have had an accident as I seen right on the bend of the downtube was a large dent and when I chipped at it a large piece of bondo or fiberglass fell out! Someone must have thought that was a fix. There isn't any cracks or rust but the tube is collapsed by half. I will try to include a pic of this to show but I am starting to wonder if this thing is worth fixing or if I should quit and try to part it out...Any advice?
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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:50 pm

Wow. When you think you've seen it all...

That's not that hard a fix. Any decent welding shop should be able to take care of that for you. Have them fill in the area with weld, grind it flat, then perhaps weld a curved piece over top of it. Paint it up, and call it good.

Anytime welding is being done on your bike, both the positive AND negative battery cables must be removed and insulated from touching the frame!

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby blackhawk22 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:51 pm

I agree with Wingadmin. Heck - you've got it running which is more than I can say about mine right now. Funny, I checked my frame and it looks good. Between the 2 of us, we may have a good bike here. haha!

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby Fred Camper » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:00 pm

Since all the tube is there, little risk for significant internal corrosion so I agree to weld no a flat patch and call it good. No need to curve it down there imo, it will not be visible.

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby jackal2 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:31 pm

Thanks for your quick responses. I had a friend that is a good fabricator stop by and look at it. He said the same thing to take another section of tubing that is the shape of the dent and weld it all the way around and fill the dent that way...Any special tips on fixing the centerstand crossover? Should we fix it and leave the centerstand off? I've done some poking around where it is cracked and it doesn't seem like it is rotted out....Thanks again

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby portugeezer » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:48 am

If you live near Chicago send me a PM. I have a good fram you can have

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby jackal2 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:30 pm

Thanks, we are going to get it up in the air in the next week and see what we have...If it doesn't look good I'll let you know...thanks again :D

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby hondo » Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:26 am

Good morning Jackal2: I to have the same problem with the center stand crossover tube. I have a 81 Interstate or what I have been led to believe is an Interstate That has been sitting in a heated garage for 9 years. Have change the belts. all the fluids, brakes pads and brakes lines, installed stainless braid lines. Also changed the front wheel bearings and plan to do the same with the rear when I get to the point where I am ready to install new tires. I am right now in the process of tracing all the wiring to make sure the are no gremlins abiding anywhere. I was wondering what your fix was for the center stand crossover tube was. I would appreciate any tips on this. Also to anyone out there who could tell me how to definitively id the unit as an Interstate as apposed to a standard I would like to hear from you as well. Thanks to all who took the time to read my rambling. Have a good day. Hondo

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby 1grouch2u » Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:04 pm

Wow, Deja Vu~! I have the exact same damage to my frame - I think it's almost a funny story how it happened!
-I was stopped getting gas one night and must've been blind or something (ahem, something!) because when I went to leave I took off then BANG, the bike just froze. I had hit a gas pump island that was just high enough to catch the frame. It got my heart rate up a little bit, but I thought it was both odd and cool that the bike just stopped dead in it's tracks. Didn't veer off or go off balance, just stopped dead in it's tracks. I've shown people the dented frame and bragged about how stable a bike it was. Don't believe me? The sun's going down right now here but ask me and I'll post a picture- it looks almost identical to what yours looks like. (I always keep a cover on mine to keep water from getting in the frame/electricals, etc., but I don't think it causes any structural problems so I haven't done anything to it- do be aware that water in the frame can cause big problems though.)

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby jackal2 » Thu May 17, 2012 10:47 am

I haven't fixed the center stand yet. I will ride it this summer and pull the motor to fix it right next winter. The bike could use a super cleanup anyway and it would be a lot easier to weld without the motor in the way.

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby JellyBelly » Fri May 18, 2012 8:01 am

can help u out with center stand and frame parts if needed.
I love my wings (both Hot and Gold) - check out my blog @ http://wingthing1000.blogspot.com/

Former 76, 77, and 78 GL1000 owner...Upgraded to a Chromed out Valkyrie

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby 1grouch2u » Fri May 18, 2012 6:25 pm

1grouch2u wrote:Wow, Deja Vu~! I have the exact same damage to my frame - I think it's almost a funny story how it happened!
-I was stopped getting gas one night and must've been blind or something (ahem, something!) because when I went to leave I took off then BANG, the bike just froze. I had hit a gas pump island that was just high enough to catch the frame. It got my heart rate up a little bit, but I thought it was both odd and cool that the bike just stopped dead in it's tracks. Didn't veer off or go off balance, just stopped dead in it's tracks. I've shown people the dented frame and bragged about how stable a bike it was. Don't believe me? The sun's going down right now here but ask me and I'll post a picture- it looks almost identical to what yours looks like. (I always keep a cover on mine to keep water from getting in the frame/electricals, etc., but I don't think it causes any structural problems so I haven't done anything to it- do be aware that water in the frame can cause big problems though.)


:lol: Okay let me see if I can figure out how to get this picture of my similarly dented frame on here... :lol:
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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby Old Fogey » Sat May 19, 2012 5:52 am

This might be a good point at which to say

Check this out: http://www.wingovations.com/#/checking- ... 4544837849
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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby Fred Camper » Sat May 19, 2012 8:30 am

Nice write up OldFogey. The devil is in these details.

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Re: Wondering if I should part it out as well...

Postby 1grouch2u » Sun May 20, 2012 6:41 pm

Old Fogey wrote:This might be a good point at which to say

Check this out: http://www.wingovations.com/#/checking- ... 4544837849


-yeah, what he said! Very in depth/informative Old Fogey. Great job! 8-)




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