Something is gettin wet


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Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:42 pm



If I happen 2 get caught n the rain the bike starts cuttin out real bad it will go dead if I dont keep the RPMS up on it. What & where sld I start lookin at 1st any ideals TY all



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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby scotterichmond » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:50 pm

that is usually caused by leaking spark plug wires or resister boots.
Anyway the secondary ignition somewhere, maybe even the coils.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby seabee_ » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:32 pm

First, look down in the spark plug area and see if the drain holes are clogged up. Use some wire or something to clean out the holes. One in each area where the plugs sit. If water pools up around the plugs you will get a misfire.
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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:07 pm

TY both ill give it a look Had no ideal there where holes down in there ty again

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby seabee_ » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:37 pm

That's what's best about this site. You can always learn something new. Let us know what you find. Good luck. And welcome to the site.
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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby scotterichmond » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:06 am

For a test you could spray water on one thing at a time while it is running (good) and then you will know exactaly where the problem is.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:51 pm

scotterichmond wrote:For a test you could spray water on one thing at a time while it is running (good) and then you will know exactaly where the problem is.


One thing at a time do ya mean 1 plug wire at a time? I dont no (what else 2 spray) but I do enjoy this site I have learnt quite a bit already from here

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby scotterichmond » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:09 pm

spray each plug wire one at a time all the way to the coils( witch are under the tool tray in the false tank.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby Fred Camper » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:32 pm

When my 1077 did that it was a hairline crack in one of the coils, putting two cylinders down. That sounds like what you are getting. Ignition wires can do the same, but 36 year old coils are also to be looked at closely.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby scotterichmond » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:05 am

Fred Camper wrote:When my 1077 did that it was a hairline crack in one of the coils, putting two cylinders down. That sounds like what you are getting. Ignition wires can do the same, but 36 year old coils are also to be looked at closely.


Very likely Fred, once he finds the "source" of the issue, I would reccomend replacing ALL thing asociated with secondary ignition

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:13 pm

Been busy last cpl days after work hope 2 get it looked at this weekend ty all Ill let ya no if I have any luck

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby rowejimf » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:53 am

I cut off a section of coat hanger. The diameter is perfect for the plug drain holes. One of the holes was plugged up pretty bad, so it is a real concern particularly if you hose your bike down from time to time. I don't have a coil issue, but if I ever need to replace them, I'll go with the '96 Dodge Neon option.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:43 pm

These weep holes for the plug drain I took a coathanger & stuck it down all 4 holes but sounds like I am hittin the bottom of sumthing where do the holes come out at sld the wire stick out sumwhere ?

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:53 am

tommydog wrote:These weep holes for the plug drain I took a coathanger & stuck it down all 4 holes but sounds like I am hittin the bottom of sumthing where do the holes come out at sld the wire stick out sumwhere ?


Maybe something more flexible like a small zip tie or electrical wire?

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:49 am

Fred Camper wrote:
tommydog wrote:These weep holes for the plug drain I took a coathanger & stuck it down all 4 holes but sounds like I am hittin the bottom of sumthing where do the holes come out at sld the wire stick out sumwhere ?


Maybe something more flexible like a small zip tie or electrical wire?


Should the wire come out somewhere the bottom or the side ?

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby rowejimf » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:48 pm

One of the holes (on my bike) was blocked. I stuck the coat hanger down and had mud and crud pouring out of the bottom.

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Re: Something is gettin wet

Postby tommydog » Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:13 pm

I have had the firein checked # 4 wasnt firein we took plug wire end off & put it back on better & it was firein. I still got the miss below 3500 RPM & it burns more gas than my car LOL. I have tried a coat hanger & a smaller peice of wire I got from work I cannot get the wire 2 come out anywhere ( should it go all the way through ) It sounds & feels like it is hittin solid goes about 4" in.




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