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laxin20
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Motorcycle: 1978 Goldwing GL1000

Wowzers

Postby laxin20 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:19 am



So in an earlier post I explained that I have no experience with bikes at all, as in a total of 20 hours riding time.... maybe.

I took my 78 GL1000 to get a minor inspection to check things out.

WOW!!! :o :shock:

Here is the list that they recommend to be completed.

Rebuild forks
Change both tires (due to age not wear)
Change O rings on header valves
Replace front turn signals
Detach rear break pedal, lube, free up. (it currently sticks a lot when used)
Flush fluids (coolant, oil, break fluid)
Clean carbs
Fix High beam (currently does not turn on)
Repair wiring to neutral light (currently stays on all the time. It does become brighter when actually in N)

I know this is a 34 year old bike but goodness!

At the end of him explaining everything to me he said it would be about $5000.00 to fix everything at once. They charge 99.00 an hour for labor. My wife only paid 1100.00 for it!

I have some knowledge of cars. How much of this stuff could I do myself?

Also --- How is everyone doing today?



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scotterichmond
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Location: Marblemount,wa
Motorcycle: 1975 GL1000
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Re: Wowzers

Postby scotterichmond » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:39 am

With the help of the great guys here you can do all of it. those things you listed are a suprise, and it won't be the first time they have been tackled here .

YOU CAN DOIT

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virgilmobile
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Location: Denham Springs,La.
Motorcycle: 1988 GL1500 I
Previously owned
78 GL1000
81 GL1100
82 GL1100 I
83 GL1100 I
83 GL1100 standard
84 GL 1200 I

Re: Wowzers

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:47 am

I doing fine,thanks....If you can turn a bolt and can comprehend basic mechanical stuff,the bike is a DIY project.....and the cost will be reasonable.
Be prepared for some quality time with it....you can't just rush it.

The one thing that wasn't mentioned is the timing belts....They NEED replacing.$35 and 2 hours.

Rebuild forks---------------new seals and oil-------------------------------------------- $25 and 3 hours
Change both tires (due to age not wear)----Good idea(dry rot) --------------------$250 and 4 hours
Change O rings on header valves------Exhaust leaking????-----------------------------
Replace front turn signals-------lens or lamp or whole thing--------------------------
Detach rear break pedal, lube, free up. --------------common problem-----------$0.03 and 2 hours
Flush fluids (coolant, oil, break fluid) ---------every 2 years-------------------------$45 and 5 hours
Clean carbs-------maybe...maybe not..........carb cleaning just takes time.................10 hours
Fix High beam (currently does not turn on)..........lamp or dirty switch...........$ ??? 2 hours
Repair wiring to neutral light (currently stays on all the time. It does become brighter when actually in N)........remove and clean neutral switch...................................3 hours.

I'm seeing about $350 minimum investment here.Mostly in the tires.
Personally I'd get the engine running good first....The carbs....They are the most tedious and time consuming part of the bike.
The rest of the stuff is maintenance.Leave the tires till last.Get it to move and stop first before going off the deep end.
You can spend many hours removing parts and cleaning them later to get the bike in great shape.
Start with the basics.Holler if you need help.Many of us have done the same thing.

laxin20
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Location: Columbus, Ohio
Motorcycle: 1978 Goldwing GL1000

Re: Wowzers

Postby laxin20 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:04 am

The O rings need changing do to being worn out. Oil is leaking from the side plates on the engine (you know where it says honda). I may have miss named this as the header valves.

The front turn signals are non existance... the previous owner removed them. I want to replace them with head lights. Thoughts?

The high beam I have no idea why it doesn't work... just doesn't turn on. :D


Well it looks like I have a fun winter project!

Thanks for the help. If anyone lives near Columbus, Ohio. You are more than welcomed to help out!

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virgilmobile
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Location: Denham Springs,La.
Motorcycle: 1988 GL1500 I
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78 GL1000
81 GL1100
82 GL1100 I
83 GL1100 I
83 GL1100 standard
84 GL 1200 I

Re: Wowzers

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:28 am

[quote="laxin20"]The O rings need changing do to being worn out. Oil is leaking from the side plates on the engine (you know where it says honda). I may have miss named this as the header valves.

###Valve cover gasket.....Cheap and easy...adjust the valves while your there anyways.

The front turn signals are non existance... the previous owner removed them. I want to replace them with head lights. Thoughts?
###E-Bay or any aftermarket lamp will do.Again...reasonably cheap.

The high beam I have no idea why it doesn't work... just doesn't turn on. :D
Time for a test light....may be just a $5 lamp.Download the schematic and service manual from this site.If your low beam works,your problem can only be from the hi/lo switch and the lamp.

Thanks for the help. If anyone lives near Columbus, Ohio. You are more than welcomed to help out!
I'll help form afar.I''m still riding in the winter and I wont go back to the snow,sorry. :D

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scotterichmond
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Re: Wowzers

Postby scotterichmond » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:59 am

best prices I have found on name brands
http://www.jakewilson.com/t/52/-/347/11 ... ycle-Tires

I bought a rear for my GL1100 (Dunlop 404) $88 delivered in 2 days.

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tom84std
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Re: Wowzers

Postby tom84std » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:50 am

Hopefully you have a comfortable place to work on the bike during the winter. I think it's a perfect opportunity to get to know a new bike a little better. Put it up on the center stand, lay your tools out and open the manual, go to work on the list. I have a picture or two of my first wing purchased in 2001 where I was in the middle of exactly the same thing. Not much more than engine, frame and wiring. I spent probably four months performing major work to the thing, but then my wife and I put 25,000 miles on it trouble free. That was a '79 1000. These bikes are wonderful machines but they're getting up there in years and so many of them have been left just sitting for a long time. They do need a little TLC.

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scotterichmond
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Re: Wowzers

Postby scotterichmond » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:12 pm

do you have a honda OEM manual?

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Randy S
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Location: Wakefield Nebraska
Motorcycle: 1984 GL1200A Aspencade 1989 GL1500

Re: Wowzers

Postby Randy S » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:14 pm

I got new Shinko tires, front and rear for 117$ with free shipping from Leatherup.com. Ordered them Sunday at 11pm and had UPS drop them off Tuesday noon. Read good reviews here from other users. Tons of good info here, just keep asking. Everything you do yourself you'll appreciate and enjoy more. Good luck and have fun!

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Randy S
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Re: Wowzers

Postby Randy S » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:22 pm

Forgot to mention I bought used hi-low beam switch for 35$ from Woodbine Cycle Salvage. They specialize in Goldwings. They're on the web and facebook. Hope this helps.

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Fred Camper
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Motorcycle: 1977 GL1000, 1976 LTD GL1000

Re: Wowzers

Postby Fred Camper » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:45 pm

three things can cause the neutral to miss behave. Maybe more. Some are simple.

1) Light leak from High beam. If you run with the high beam on in the day (a good idea to save the low beam filament) and your neutral light stays on, it overheats the plastic web between the two bulb cells. It melts, then the high beam light bleeds into the neutral cell and glows dim. Fix the cell wall with tape and replace all indicator bulbs with BA9s 1 SMD leds for way less heat and power draw.

$0.50 each here http://www.ebay.com/itm/150623846704?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_3315wt_1396

2) Bad Diode - the early wings have 4 diodes, and one is on the neutral circuit. If that diode shorts out, the neutral light stays on from feedback in another circuit. Remove the diodes one at a time and if the neutral light goes out, check that diode for a short (it should only have continuity one direction).

3) Dirty or failed neutral switch. It is a pita to get at, so check the other two first.

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portugeezer
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Motorcycle: 1976 gl1000
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Re: Wowzers

Postby portugeezer » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:21 am

My 76 was in about the same or worse shape than yours when I got it. I am a very handy person in general. I fixed everything that was worn or broken on my bike by asking a lot of questions here and taking my time. I like these bikes so much I am now working on the second one. There is something very addictive about the feel of these flat fours! Working on them has become a hobby for me. I own a small garage door repair and installation company, I play music professionally on the weekends and I repair guitars. I am not by any means a motorcyle mechanic but I know that I will do whatever needs to be done on my bike right! It seems to me that most bike shops don't really do a very good job with these old wings. You will be much more satisfied with the results if you do it yourself. I'm kind of a student on here but I will help you in any way I can.




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