starter/engine


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starter/engine

Postby twaggoner » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:54 am



First off... I greatly appreciate all of your advice and insight. I would not have a clue how to do half of the stuff that I have done with my Goldwing with out this sight so I just wanted to put that out there.
Here is the issue and I will try my best to explain it thoroughly... Periodically, when trying to start my Goldwing it sounds like the starter is hanging up. I press the start button, the starter sounds like it is engaged but like it is caught on something.

I replaced the starter and solenoid and the same thing kept happening. I questioned the wiring in the starter button which after checking, there was an issue causing headlight problems so I replaced the starter button.

After that...the starter/engine seemed to turn over wonderfully, for the first couple of rides and yesterday, after pressing the starter button, it turned over a few times at first, only to hang-up or catch on something. Also, a couple of times riding in to work, it will turn over and start just fine. Then I go out after work, hit the start button, and I hear the starter getting power, attempting to turn over but, it sounds like it is hanging up on something internal, which is concerning me.

I have tried putting it in gear and holding in on the clutch but I do not think that it is an issue. I have wondered if it could be a saftey switch but when it hangs up it sounds, to me, like it is something internally, which I REALLY hope it is not. I apologize for writting a book but I am new at this and want to fully explain the symptoms. Thanks again for all of your time and help!!!



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Re: starter/engine

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:59 am

It's possible your engine is hydrolocked. Are you shutting the fuel petcock off when you park the bike? If not, a leaky float valve could allow fuel to leak down into a cylinder, which will hydrolock the engine, and will not allow the starter to crank it.

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Re: starter/engine

Postby scotterichmond » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:54 pm

WingAdmin wrote:It's possible your engine is hydrolocked. Are you shutting the fuel petcock off when you park the bike? If not, a leaky float valve could allow fuel to leak down into a cylinder, which will hydrolock the engine, and will not allow the starter to crank it.

That was my first thought too!

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Re: starter/engine

Postby twaggoner » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:24 pm

Yes, I do shut off the fuel when I shut it down. I do have a cylinder that is not hitting correctly, I believe. I was very worried that it could be something internally wrong but did not know what to think because the majority of the time the starter/engine will turn and fire up just fine.

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Re: starter/engine

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:22 pm

Does the starter still spin and just not crank the bike???
I know it's hard to explain a noise,but it is also possible the starter clutch isn't grabbing well.
It makes growling sound ,like the starter is not engaging all the way.
My 84 would sound like a bunch of bolts in a coffee can with rocks in it and being ground around.
A few more bumps and it locks in and cranks normal.
Sea foam treat the oil to free up the clutch may fix the problem.It did on my 84.
Use your phone and record it when it does this and post it to U-Tube then link it to your next post.

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Re: starter/engine

Postby terryt » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:32 pm

Try taking the plugs out and spin it over. turn the engine kill switch to off first. i had a fuel tap that was passing when turned off

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Re: starter/engine

Postby Fred Camper » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:11 pm

yup, taking out the plugs and cranking is a great idea.

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Re: starter/engine

Postby twaggoner » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:07 am

Good advice...I will give it a shot.

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Re: starter/engine

Postby twaggoner » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:13 am

Update! I pulled the plugs and cylinder #4 was FULL of fuel. Shot it all over the garauge wall so...I definitly have a carb issue. Also, I am going to seafoam treat my oil to help with any, possible, clutch issues. I did not crank it very much but when I get home from Drill weekend I am going to check the cylinder again. I, most certainly, have the fuel shot off at the tank so I may have to get an "Inline" shut off switch if the the valve on the tank is failing to fully shut off the fuel. Thank you all for your advice!

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Re: starter/engine

Postby scotterichmond » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:24 am

If the valve indeed does not shut off , the are easy to rebuild and even easier to replace.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=gl+ ... &_from=R40

and orings
http://www.randakks.com/TechTip31.htm
$16 here too scroll down the page
http://www.randakks.com/Carb%20Parts.htm

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Re: starter/engine

Postby twaggoner » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:16 am

Groovy!!! thanks dude!

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Re: starter/engine

Postby terryt » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:15 am

I found mine was worse when the tank was full. you can check the tap with it still on the bike. pull the fuel line from the tap replace it with a short fuel pipe and let it sit in a container and see if it passes dont walk away a leave it. if your using a small jug as it may over flow. the tap. try turning it on and off may have picked up some dirt




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