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76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:19 pm



hi am having ignition problems.my bike will fire then not.what cause's this. when you turn the key off and on it will fire. but not while cranking it.i had it hook to a charger on boost start did i cook something. thanks for any help



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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby El Taco » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:32 pm

Do the indicator lights flicker or go out with the key on? You may have to remove, disassemble, and clean the switch portion of the ignition lock.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:10 pm

you have to turn key just right . turn it to on then pull it back alittle.so i know it's got a short in it .how does it come apart ?

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:43 pm

i bypass the key switch and it still wont fire.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby dingdong » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:28 am

I'm not understanding what you mean by " when you turn the key off and on it will fire. but not while cranking it." ??? What exactly do you mean by "not fire". Does that mean no fire to the plugs or turns over but wont start? You aren't very clear in your description.
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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:48 pm

with the sparks plugs out of the bike. and laying on the side of the engine .if you turn key off and on all four plugs will spark. but when i do a spark test i get no spark

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby terryt » Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:52 pm

67 honda wrote:with the sparks plugs out of the bike. and laying on the side of the engine .if you turn key off and on all four plugs will spark. but when i do a spark test i get no spark

What all 4 sparking at the same time. :o do have you got electronic ignition fitted

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby Fred Camper » Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:16 pm

Need a better description to tell us what is different from your spark test and then the NO spark.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby El Taco » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:25 pm

If you haven't already done so, this might be a good time to pull all your fuses and polish the contacts.

Your lock has a plastic base that snaps into the bottom, it carries the lower half of the switch.

The switch will not short internally, or should not, unless one of the contact strips broke. Usually, the contacts get dirty and no longer work where they should. Unsnap connector, remove two bolts with ten mm socket on extension, remove lock, unsnap lock base, remove all grease and dirt, polish contacts, replace grease with fresh dielectric, and assembly is reverse of disassembly.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:24 am

with plugs laying on side of the engine and turn the engine over.that's how am checking the spark.it's has a dyna 3 ignition system. is it nomal for the plugs to spark when you turn the key on.it was firing then it quit . yes all four plugs spark at the same time. the coils are getting hot too.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby dingdong » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:36 pm

You need to find out where the power is being picked up feeding the Dyna 3. Then check to see if there is 12 volts there. Sounds like you have a defective Dyna or no power going to it. Could be a blown fuse on the incoming power side.
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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:52 pm

fuses are good and got juice to the dyna. i can get what i need to go back to points for 50 bucks.that would be easier for me. thanks for the help everybody.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby Fred Camper » Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:41 pm

I would suggest just checking the spark when cranking with just one plug pulled at a time. That early spark of all 4 sounds strange. The coils getting hot can lead to a coil failure so be careful how long you let that occur. Sure sounds like maybe a coil issue to me. There are some coil tests you can run and that would be more productive than putting points back in. The Dyna S is pretty darn reliable compared to points that get left open for weeks at a time.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:15 pm

thanks fred ok i will try that first the points are really a last resort.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby terryt » Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:05 am

Have you checked the engine kill switch. disconect the wire and test with a meter or by pass and then try and start or see if there is a spark

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby El Taco » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:17 pm

All four plugs spark when you turn the key on... Sounds like a bad module. You hit the starter and all four plugs spark once at the same time, then nothing. Turn key off, plugs spark every time the key is turned on.

I've seen that many times before.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:12 pm

yep that's it that's what it's doing. crank it i get no spark. turn the key on and off they will spark.so module you think maybe. :?

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby Fred Camper » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:53 pm

How old is the Dyna unit. They see to stand behind there work. Give them a call and maybe they can at least confirm your suspicions and maybe offer a discount. Mine was a 1984 unit so it did not owe me anything.

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby terryt » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:37 am

That’s why I asked if you had electronic ignition.
They all will spark once you turn the switch on. It discharging. Mine does it
Test to see if you have 12volts at the yellow and blue tagged wires from the dyna s. and a perminant 12volt feed when ignition is on at the red wire
Have a look at this and test yours before taking it out.

http://classicwingclub.org/frankspage/pdf/DynaS.PDF

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:45 am

i check the yellow and blue wire there is no juice. the red [main one] has juice. the other red wire has got juice but it's deam .

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby terryt » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:58 am

67 honda wrote:i check the yellow and blue wire there is no juice. the red [main one] has juice. the other red wire has got juice but it's deam .

Not sure here. what other red wire
you got a red wire that is fitted to the main wireing of the bike to the dyna. there is a blue and yellow that comes from the dyna to the bikes wiring to the coils.did you turn the engine over by hand with the ignition on. not the start button to test the yellow/blue as per the instuctions

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:25 pm

my dyna 3 has two red wires yellow,blue,white,and two black wires. one of the red wires goes to ignition the other one goes to the pickup coil. yellow and blue wires goes to bike wiring harness and then to the coils . white wire goes to pickup coil.one black wire to pickup coil.the other black wire goes to the engine ground.this is what it looks on my bike. my bike came with dyna 3 ignition on it. so is hook up right ? p.s. when i touch the white wire and the black wire with a light tester the plug spark

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby terryt » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:59 pm

you must have an early one

this is the type i have dsi
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380498097087? ... 1423.l2649

or there is this type
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190713536167? ... 1423.l2648

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Re: 76 goldwing gl1000 ignition problem

Postby 67 honda » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:33 pm

still not sure if the dyna 3 or maybe the pickup coil ? p.s. it's look old.




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