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I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby 1grouch2u » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:54 pm



And it's about to driving me nutz...!!! :cry: :evil: :twisted: I've even tried putting them in a few at a time with just my fingers- it'll seem like everyting is okay, then they'll pile up on me and all come back out - GGRRR~!!!! I've got the wheel/tyre assy up in my kitchen sink at a good hight, good light, --- it seems like they jamb against each other and have to come out (and make big mess) before I can get anymore progress- which I can't rally tell if I've made any (progress) yet or not! :evil:

I got my rim cleaned up, cleaned and moly'd the spiders and the driven spline with Moly 60- my new exhaust gaskets arrived from RockAuto earlier today as well- yesterday I got the head done, with the cam, adjusted the valves, and put the timing belt and everything getting closer.

I can't for the life of me figure out what's keeping the danged beads from going in the tube smooth- it's really got me pissed off...

Any ideas? :roll: :oops:

-Maybe I need to deflate, air-up, deflate, air-up a few times - maybe something isn't set right in there, but I sure wish I knew what was going on! :?



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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:42 am

I was able to get one out of 3 tires done through the valve stem.
I ended up using a large "C" clamp and some wood to break one bead loose.
I opened a space with a pry bar and poured them straight in then aired up the tire to seat the bead.

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Postby terryt » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:04 am

Hi it may be the inner tube is blocking the valve when it’s deflated. Try pushing a drinking straw down to see how far it goes in

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Postby dingdong » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:22 am

Ignore this. Didn't read all of the post.
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Postby themainviking » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:14 pm

Just a little air to ensure the tube is not blocking the valve may help, and then a clear plastic tube on the valve and tap or vibrate the valve while adding the beads, seems to work for a lot of folks. Personally, I put them in when I put the "tubeless" tires on, so I did not have your particular experience.
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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby cbx4evr » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:31 pm

Putting beads in a tube tire takes patience. Key is to pour slowly. Pour to fast and the beads bunch up in the calve stem. I pour and vibrates the valve stem with a screwdriver handle by tapping on it. Take you time and it will get done. They flow much easier in metal valve stems than the rubber ones.
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Postby 1grouch2u » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:49 am

Thanks guys- I left it alone yesterday (Sunday) - probably go about it with a more level head here a little later in the day. I've got a feeling that I need to get some tiny strraw down in there past a certain distance then maybe they'll stop 'clumping' up- thanks for the words of encouragement, it's probably something that's been mentioned here by now, and patience and perseverance shall win out in the end 8-)

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby cbx4evr » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:49 am

Straw doesn't work well. It takes up space reducing the passageway for the beads. Pour and tap, pour and tap. If you have one of those electric pencil engravers they supposedly help vibrate the stem.
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Postby thrasherg » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:42 pm

Like the others, the only thing I found to work, was to put the clear plastic tube on the valve stem, pour the beads into the tube and I then took a screwdriver and spent 15 to 30 minutes taping the plastic tube with the screwdriver. The beads do eventually all go inside the wheel, but it is a test of patience!! :D

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:35 pm

thrasherg wrote:Like the others, the only thing I found to work, was to put the clear plastic tube on the valve stem, pour the beads into the tube and I then took a screwdriver and spent 15 to 30 minutes taping the plastic tube with the screwdriver. The beads do eventually all go inside the wheel, but it is a test of patience!! :D

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I put an allen key in a drill, and used it to "whap" the plastic tube, rather than whacking it with a screwdriver.

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Postby 1grouch2u » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:07 pm

:o *****************************ACHTUNG************************************** :o

I finally have my 'dyna-beads' in my tire/tube! :) I had to put the wheel up in my kitchen sink and put the beads in pretty much one at a time, but at least most of them are now in there! :) I tried all manner of whappers, vibrating things, :) clear tubes, stretchy, various sizes of various purpose medical tubing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:) It didn't matter much what I did different, there was a place pretty much right where the tube attached to the stem- I suppose- where the beads would stack up, and once they started backing up it was all over :twisted: I'd have to blow or otherwise disturb them out of there, pick them back up, and go for it again- :oops: I never did find the exact combination of technique that would enable me to get them in there with any but the greatest difficulty I would have ever imagined from this kind of operation- :?

:D Oh well, I just hope the results are worth the effort (and I'm really expecting them to be- they do come so highly recommended that I'll even attach some psychological benefit if need be!) :shock:

8-) Maybe it was not having good coordination with my gimp hand or something, but unless the beads were dropping one-at-a-time through the very bottom of the stem, they would invariably start backing up, and once they did that they were stuck. I haven't even yet been able to air the tire up and make sure I haven't damaged the tube during all this, but that is (at least I hope) highly unlikely. :roll:

:D Just thought I'd report this small victory- now to get the radiator back in, run the engine up to op-temp , re-torque the head I put on it- moly-up the splines, put the wheel, crash guards , and bags back on it- hope my can around my muffler clamp holds up... but that's yet another tale for another time- in short, about the beads... :roll:

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:38 am

I know it's a bit too late for you....but I just posted this tonight:




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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby 1grouch2u » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:30 am

WingAdmin wrote:I know it's a bit too late for you....but I just posted this tonight:






Yeah, I had actually figured out that that would work- I just don't have compressed air (I had a little bit of cannned air for blowing off electronics and at some point noticed that action.) Thank you for thinking about my dilema- I just got bull-headed today and decided even if I had to put them in one bead at a time, by golly, they were getting done today! -So they did! Good job- as always- great site- many thanks! :D

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Postby Fred Camper » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:34 pm

So the beads will really work inside a tube as well? Certain that is an easy installation now, so if you folks can tell me they work just as well inside a tube I will give them a try.

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Postby WingAdmin » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:43 pm

Fred Camper wrote:So the beads will really work inside a tube as well? Certain that is an easy installation now, so if you folks can tell me they work just as well inside a tube I will give them a try.


Yes, they are just fine in tubed tires. They've been in my wife's old Virago for over a year now.

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby Wilcoy02 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:40 pm

Sorry I did not see this earleir. This will not help you but maybe others.
The beads do a wonderful job of getting rid of vibrations and my tires are lasting much longer now.

I too had the same problem- I finally got one tire done with a metal engraver vibrating next to the valve stem as i poured about 30 minutes.

Was at a bike show and talked to the bead deler. He said the valve stems have a rubber kinda flap from the manufacturing process. He said to run a drill bit down the stem and to cut that flap away. ran my drill down the stem. Filled the other tire up in 5 minutes.

I then did my 8 tires on my 2 cars total time about 30 minutes for all 8 tires.

My bike tires are not cupping and they are wearing very evenly--been on the bike for 2 years now

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby 1grouch2u » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:35 am

Wilcoy02 wrote:Sorry I did not see this earleir. This will not help you but maybe others.
The beads do a wonderful job of getting rid of vibrations and my tires are lasting much longer now.

I too had the same problem- I finally got one tire done with a metal engraver vibrating next to the valve stem as i poured about 30 minutes.

Was at a bike show and talked to the bead deler. He said the valve stems have a rubber kinda flap from the manufacturing process. He said to run a drill bit down the stem and to cut that flap away. ran my drill down the stem. Filled the other tire up in 5 minutes.

I then did my 8 tires on my 2 cars total time about 30 minutes for all 8 tires.

My bike tires are not cupping and they are wearing very evenly--been on the bike for 2 years now


:) Yeah, I definitely suspected that might be the case- I just didn't want to risk any damage to the tube right there- Next time I go for this I'll have to combine a few more resources- it was just frustrating going into this so ill equiped :roll:

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Re: I Can't Get these Dyna-Beads into my Tube -

Postby Wilcoy02 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:17 pm

NEXT TIME you should be changing tires. Take the old tire off the bike and drill a 1/4 -1/2 inch hole in the center of the tire. Get a big pan and pour the beads into the pan. When you go to change the tire off the rim-pour the beads into the inside of the rim of the new tire. These are reusable.




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