GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing


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GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:41 pm



I had a different thread last month about a related topic. Been away and stopped the project for awhile. Today I got into it again and positioned the fairing on the mounting bracket. Realized I could never get my "faux gas tank side covers mounted if the fairing was in place. Mounted the side covers. Couldn't get the fairing to slide onto the mount without kissing the side covers. Tried loosening the clamps on the mounting bracket and used a rubber mallet to tap the bracket down the frame tubes a few millimeters. Got some more clearance between the rear end of the bracket and side cover(s), but I still can't get the fairing to mount without the Vetter kissing the side cover.

(1) When I purchased the Vetter I was told by the buyer it came off a GL1000.
Was I lied to?
(2) Is this a problem that I should solve by modifying the fairing mount? Chop some metal off the rear of the mount and re-drill the mounting holes?

I feel as if this bike just fights me all the way. Where is the E A S Y button?
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby cbx4evr » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:02 am

William Ennis wrote:I feel as if this bike just fights me all the way. Where is the E A S Y button?
Bill



Your bike is trying to tell you that it wants to stay naked.
"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:56 pm

It should be close but not touching. The mounting bracket is made to only fit the GL1000 frame. The farings themselves are all drilled the same. Not sure what could be wrong. Can you post a pic of how the bracket is mounted?

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:17 pm

It will be this close to the cover!

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby wjnfirearms » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:51 pm

One thing they clearly mention in the Vetter mounting instructions for the 1000 is that one must remove the hinge pins for the covers if they are ever to be removed with the fairing in place.

Download the free pdf instruction manual if you haven't done so yet. It is invaluable.

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:22 pm

Thanks for your responses and photos. I am posting my photos. I removed the hinge pins. Also downloaded the Vetter instructions. One thought I've considered is buying a high density rubber 1/4 inch think and cutting a shim to place between the bracket and the frame tubes. Maybe that extra 1/4 inch space will make enough difference. I can hardly believe that photo you posted. Appears as if the Vetter is close enough to rub paint off the covers. Even the Hondaline Fairing on my GL650I has "beaucoup" clearance in comparison.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby JellyBelly » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:43 pm

Looks like if you move it down maybe an eighth of an inch it would work.

My 78 is naked and my 77 is dressed. Both had the vetter SS on them. My brackets have gl1000 sticker plates on them. But i think u have the right stuff. Just fiddle with the position i guess.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:55 pm

Well guys, I emailed Carol Vetter and she forwarded my problem and photos to Craig Vetter. I asked if there were changes in the brackets from 1975 thru 1979 and could I possibly have a bracket that was never going to give me the clearance I needed. Here is Craig Vetter's response:

"Craig Vetter <craig@craigvetter.com>
8:44 PM (1 hour ago)
You identified the problem. There were a number of GL brackets. You need to find the one for your year.
The GL wasn't the only Honda that changed all the time. Most Honda fairing brackets changed every year... some more than that.
Frustrating then... frustrating now."

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby JellyBelly » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:52 am

Wow...never heard of that or would have guessed it...since there isn't a whole lot of change between the 75 and 79 shelters. So I guess you have one off a pre 79 bike then? Sounds like you need a refund :-)
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby wjnfirearms » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:01 am

What Craig said is true, but there were no real structural changes to the GL from '75 through '79 as far as I know, so a fairing bracket for any of those years should fit period. I don't believe that Vetter made different brackets for those year range applications. He did give a pretty generic answer and didn't specify differences during the time from '75 through '79 prior to the change to the 1100.

The Windjammer that is going on my '77 came off of a '78, The bracket fit perfectly and there is nominal, but ample clearance.

Only thing that I can think of is that maybe, and I say just maybe, could the false tank since it changed somewhat in '78 to go to the triple gauge design, have been made slightly wider that previously? Other than that, I'm mystified.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:30 am

I already tried my "shim" idea, and it was not a solution. So I will just have to shop for another bracket or sell the Vetter and buy a Slip Streamer type windshield, etc. Nevertheless, I do appreciate everyone's effort with suggestions.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby wjnfirearms » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:48 pm

I have another bracket at home. Tomorrow, I'll measure the distance between the fairing mounts and get back to you. If it comes to your alternative, I have a Slipstreamer that was on my GL when I got it in nearly perfect shape that I've been looking to sell.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:56 pm

I just bought another Vetter Bracket off the "bay", but if it turns out to be the same as what I already have I will PM you about your Slip Streamer option.
Thank you,
Bill
P.S. my brother told me when I bought this 2nd bike that I was just getting a "money-pit". I had hoped to prove him wrong. So far he is winning the argument :lol:

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby 1grouch2u » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:29 pm

I think what you've got is the bracket for the '75-'76- you'll either have to get the earlier shelter sides or a bracket made to clear those that you have. On my '76 you cannot have the hinge pins in, but there's plenty of room for pulling the side covers off and they clear fine. The inside frame of my shelter is 8" across at the front (on top) and 6" across at the back (in front of the gas cap.)

If there's any measurements you need off my old one let me know- it's right outside the back door with the shelter sides off waiting for me to do a few more tweaks then put her back together and drop her out of there for this years riding.

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby 1grouch2u » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:35 pm

1grouch2u wrote:
If there's any measurements you need off my old one let me know- it's right outside the back door with the shelter sides off waiting for me to do a few more tweaks then put her back together and drop her out of there for this years riding.






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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:32 am

Looking at the pics of yours compared to mine I agree that the problem is the contours of the side covers. You can't just go find side covers from at 75-77 because they won't match the center portion. If you try to change the center part the gauges and wiring is different. I think the simple solution is to redrill. I would use flat bar stock of the appropriate width to extend the part the faring bolts to. Go right on top of it. Run two bolts all the way through both pieces of metal and the faring then one at the front on each side through the front hole on the extension. I know that it will work because my faring is a Vindicator not a Windjammer so the signals are on flat bar stock that sits on top of the existing bracket. This will give you the abilty to mount the faring 1/2" forward and will still be just as strong.This won't take much work to fab and will have you together in about an hour. They have flat barstock at HD in steel and aluminum. I would use the steel even though it's harder to drill.

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:39 am

I would also use nylock nuts and flat headed bolts. You will need 3 per side

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:59 am

Bill, I went outside to get the bracket from my bike that was in the fire to take pics of what I'm trying to get you to try and guess what? In my pile of bike parts that I got who knows where or when I found another bracket. This one mounts the faring at least an inch foreward of where the other one does! There is a spot about an inch long on it that needs a bead of weld. You can have it for whatever UPS charges to get it to you! So if the one you ordered doesn't work I got ya covered! Let me know!

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:03 am

Wes, If that slipstreamer you have is universal I am interested in it for my little Magna

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:18 am

Your offers of help are sincerely appreciated. My 2nd bracket may be my easiest solution, but it is great to know other riders are "in the wings" able to step in with some help.

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby wjnfirearms » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:37 am

Pg, the screen is universal. I'm pm ing you my contact info.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby William Ennis » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:36 am

I am posting a photo of the fairing and its clearance from the side cover after installing the proper bracket for year 1979 GL1000. I did a trial bolt-up this afternoon. Sure makes a difference to have the proper year's bracket. I'm going to run for a couple of months with this fairing "as is", take a long trip, then return and repaint the fairing.
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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby 1grouch2u » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:46 am

William Ennis wrote:I am posting a photo of the fairing and its clearance from the side cover after installing the proper bracket for year 1979 GL1000. I did a trial bolt-up this afternoon. Sure makes a difference to have the proper year's bracket. I'm going to run for a couple of months with this fairing "as is", take a long trip, then return and repaint the fairing.
Bill


Yeah, that's what I was trying to get across with the pictures I put up earlier- guess I should've taken some with the shelter covers on too- would've been same as these I imagine. Well cool, glad you got it sorted out. It's way, way better having that fairing on there for any real high-speed long-distance riding- without it it'll try and drag you off the bike, a real pain in the ass (I ran mine without it, and the wind really pulls you hard- it'll go 80mph no problem as far as you want to go, and that's a lot farther with the fairing than without it- at least to me!) 8-)

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby portugeezer » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:20 pm

I agree the faring is the way to go! For an around town bike just a small windshield or naked is fine but for long trips or in rain or cold weather nothing beats having that faring! I use all the storage on my bike too! I have a Magna for around town!

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Re: GL1000 - fitting the Vetter Fairing

Postby JellyBelly » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:55 pm

I agree. Anything over 55mph a fairing makes the ride much more comfortable. I made my 78 nakedbut still have the fairing on the 77.


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