clutch, from wire to hydraulic.


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clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby bobberbygge » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:29 am



Hi,

Want to convert clutch from wire to hydraulic. Somebody hade an idea? The wire broke today when the sun was shining and 5 degress celsius. But it would be worse if it broke in traffic..... :o

Bike: Goldwing GL1000 from 1976.

Charles



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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:02 pm

I have had both types....I found that the hydraulic is no better or worse in feel or dependability than the cable type.
As far as conversion...it could be done,however I hasten to add that the slave cylinder would have to be custom made to be able to be attached to the clutch arm on the engine.
Converting the mechanical part of the clutch release in the rear of the engine to hydraulic isn't something even I would undertake.Those parts are not interchangeable between models..eg gl1000 mechanical with a gl1200 hydraulic clutch cover.
Assuming one were to undertake such an adventure,I would speculate the cost would be much more than replacing the clutch cable and having a spare clutch and throttle cables in the trunk.
Just my opinion you understand..

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby Placerville » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:09 pm

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:45 pm

Good link.....Thanks
I thought it may be possible if you could find just the right combination of pieces.

And good luck finding them in Sweden...it's still a mater of want over feasibility and how deep your pockets are.
Keep us posted.

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:47 am

virgilmobile wrote:I have had both types....I found that the hydraulic is no better or worse in feel or dependability than the cable type.


I disagree, I find the hydraulic clutches are more smooth and easier to use than cable clutches. You also have a lot less of a chance of a catastrophic failure (i.e. cable break) leaving you stranded. That said, I don't know that I would attempt a conversion either - otherwise I would have done so on my 1100.

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby portugeezer » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:38 am

I agree! Hydraulic is much better. The clutch on my GL1000 was newly replaced when I got it. If you don't have some strong a$$ monkey grip in your left hand you can not pull that clutch in! The springs are too strong. I read somewhere that people are only using half of the new springs when replacing the clutch. I have let a lot of people try it and they are always like "Wow that is tough" or "how do you ride this thing" It doesn't bother me because my left hand is strong from playing bass. I have yet to have a woman try it that can even pull it halfway in!

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:22 am

Well just pu. :( We disagree.
Get a grip. :D
I guess I'm used to a cable from the last 40 years of bikes.Never really analyzed it that much.
Never broke a cable,preventive maintaince I guess.
Is the hydraulic better?? Maybe...For me it's just a clutch lever.I don't play with it much.

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby motorcyclemedic » Wed May 29, 2013 5:42 am

I have done some research on converting a GL1000 to a GL1200 hydraulic set up- There is info on this (google) I believe the cover from an 85 GL1200 (which also has the slave cyl on it) fits a GL1000- all that is needed is to modify the pushrod shorter to fit. Also need an 85 cover gasket- I have the instructions at home (am at work now) will try to find and post. The hydraulic clutch on my 85 apencade is much easier to pull than my 75 wing- I can use two fingers on it- I will be converting my 75 next winter when I go thru it. Dennis

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby spookytooth » Wed May 29, 2013 8:35 pm

Personally, it's not a big enough deal to worry about. Interesting though..

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby Fred Camper » Wed May 29, 2013 9:57 pm

The bigger deal to me is how ineffective the early GL clutch in terms of long term torque. Two hot passes on a drag strip and the clutch can no longer transfer sufficient torque. I would first seek to put in a later clutch pack to provide more durability than to just put a hydraulic pull onto the weak stock clutch plates.

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby motorcyclemedic » Thu May 30, 2013 10:36 am

I need to correct a mistake from my earlier post -- its an 84 1200 clutch cover that is used to convert a GL1000 to hydraulic- also- google GL1000 clutch hydraulic conversion, and there is a way to use the entire clutch pack from a GL1200 into a GL1000 !!! A guy did a complete conversion, put the clutch assembly from a GL1200 engine into a GL1000- worked fine- just barely enough room -- the diaphram springs in the GL1200 clutch make the difference-- lower lever forces, and better clutch performance- might be the cats meyow for the drag strip!!

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:33 pm

I bought a full 1200 conversion less Master cylinder from sunnbobb over at NGWClub.com but am not planning on installing it until my engine comes out for some reason. My current clutch is doing okay for now.

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby bogan79 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:36 pm

I have the opportunity to buy a beautiful 1975 Goldwing with about 30k miles on it. It is in great shape, but the owner says he is getting rid of it because it needs a new Clutch, and doesnt want to do it himself or pay for it. He says the Clutch is "Slipping" but never had it diagnosed formally.

I think i can get it done, but my question is... should a naked 75' GW with 30k on it need a new clutch already? or is it the clutch cable that needs adjustment... ???

Is $1200 a fair price for this???

thanks,

Bo

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Re: clutch, from wire to hydraulic.

Postby motorcyclemedic » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:48 am

If you have a GOOD GL Mechanic avaialble, would be worth the hr or 2 labor to get a prebuyer inspection- The clutch should NOT be bad at 30K miles- I bet its out of adjusatment-or, the springs and bearings could be bad from age - 30+ years old- I have a 75 wing with only 10K miles, am converting it to a 1200 clutch pack- hydraulic and all- the old one is slipping, and the bearings are grabbing- just age, bike hasn't been thrashed at all. good luck! Dennis in Anchorage




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