Timing belt durability?


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Timing belt durability?

Postby steveclk » Fri May 03, 2013 8:19 pm



I have a 1978 GL1000 that has 23,000 miles and has been stored inside for 8 years. these belts are rubber and I am wondering if they should be replaced because they haven't been used for that time. Do they get brittle or degenerate with time if idle?
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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Fred Camper » Fri May 03, 2013 8:28 pm

Yes, these are interference engines and a broken belt is very bad news. Word on the street is every 5 years you replace the belts, or immediately if the age is not known. Maybe they can go longer, but I will not support the research on my bike. They are not very expensive and NAPA and vendors on this site carry them. Cascade Cycle is a very good choice at http://cascadecycle.com/

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Placerville » Sat May 04, 2013 2:08 am

+1 on Freds advice. Every 5 years or 25K, whichever comes first.
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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby artgrantz » Sat May 04, 2013 5:35 am

I owned a '75, two '85s, and a '96 Goldwing before I got my '08. I would change the belts somewhere between 80 and 100K and never had a problem and none of the belts were cracked or severely worn when removed.

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby spookytooth » Thu May 09, 2013 7:17 pm

I was surprised that there's no "how to" thread on this topic... I plan on doing this along with rockerarm adjustment and an oil change very soon.

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby steveclk » Thu May 09, 2013 7:44 pm

There is a fully informative how to listed online if you send me your email I will forward it to you.
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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby SteveB123 » Thu May 09, 2013 8:49 pm

spookytooth wrote:I was surprised that there's no "how to" thread on this topic... I plan on doing this along with rockerarm adjustment and an oil change very soon.


http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544
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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby spookytooth » Thu May 09, 2013 9:56 pm

Excellent. Thank you.

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Dusty Boots » Fri May 10, 2013 6:05 am

Timing belts will easily last you 7 - 8 years and 80,000+ mi
I just changed mine out again, that I installed in May of 2009. At that time, my bike had 54,000 km/33,750 mi.
When I changed them out on April 10 this year, the bike had 216,750 km/135,469 mi.

Anything over 10 years old and I would be changing them out, regardless of the mileage!


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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby spookytooth » Fri May 10, 2013 9:35 pm

Dusty likes to live dangerously...

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Dusty Boots » Sat May 11, 2013 4:49 am

spookytooth wrote:Dusty likes to live dangerously...



I don't know about that ..... Honda recommends in their maintenance chart (at least on the 1500s) to 'inspect' them every 100,000 miles.

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby dingdong » Sat May 11, 2013 7:14 am

Just so you know. When I bought my 76, before I knew what an interference engine was, I inspected the belts as recommended. They looked brand new. No wear and no cracks. Even the lettering on the outside was like new. Well, you can guess the outcome. Rebuild the head after having the bike hauled 150 miles back home.
You "CANNOT" inspect the belts and determine if they are still viable. If in doubt replace. If, like in Dusty's case, you know the history, that is a different story. This is especially true if the bike has been sitting for any length of time. REPLACE THE BELTS!!!
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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Dusty Boots » Sat May 11, 2013 10:10 pm

Agreed!, when I 1st got this bike, it only had 20,396 km/12,748 mi on it, but it was 16 yr old, so I changed them out later that summer, due to the belt's age, not mileage. I'd trust my 5 yr old belts with 95,000 mi on them, more than I would ones with just 20,000 and 16 yrs old! ;)

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby spookytooth » Mon May 13, 2013 9:05 pm

Here's a silly question... How horrible would it be to run the bike with the timing belt covers off? I've seen a few bikes like that and it looks pretty neat...

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby Fred Camper » Mon May 13, 2013 9:09 pm

Just stay off gravel roads and run a good front fender. Not heard of someone having an issue.But not a good idea for a daily driver.

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby spookytooth » Mon May 13, 2013 9:14 pm

I did my first ever timing belt replacement tonight. It was ridiculously easy. Having done it it seems even more silly to let the belts go for an extended period of time.

**edit** Of course.. My bike doesn't have a fairing on it which I imagine could turn the job into a nightmare..

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Re: Timing belt durability?

Postby NKYWinger » Tue May 14, 2013 8:18 am

spookytooth- Having the fairing doesn't make the job a nightmare, it just makes it longer.....LOL It's a PITA to remove/replace lower fairings and engine guards, but it really doesn't add that much time to the job.....esp after you've done it a number of times....HA!

I'm with most of you - 5 years is long enough on the belts. It is cheap insurance.


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