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GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:23 pm



Hey guys,

I'm new the forum and new to Goldwings. I have had other Honda bikes, but never a Goldwing.

I bought this bike from someone after it was sitting in his barn for 10 years. I put in a new battery, starter relay and ignition switch. The wiring has been messed with pretty good (cut wires and twisted together) and I have traced everything down from the battery to the push button start; all is good in that direction. The lights will come on, turn signals work but the bike starter will not try to run when I push the button. I know I have a power loss when I try to start it, volts go from 12v to around 7v then back to 12v when I let off. I have tested the started by jumping across the relay and starter spins (I'm assuming starter is good at this point). I have ordered new wiring harness and will install upon arrival; but would like to hear it try to start before then . Any ideas on what could be wrong or what direction to go?


Thanks
Michael



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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:57 pm

Can you tell me where you measured the 7 volts at.???

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:04 pm

It was at the starter relay, was looking for voltage going to the starter.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 pm

The starter will spin with as little as 7 volts from the battery....Measure with your volt meter directly on the battery posts...Both positive and negative...Lets see if the battery is up to par.
It should stay above 11 volts while cranking..

Remember...directly on BOTH battery posts,not the frame and solenoid post.
If it does,your loosing volts through a bad connection...Possibly the ground lug thats attached under the engine bracket.
If the battery drops off,by all means have it tested or charged.New batteries must be charged on a trickle charger for 24 hours before using.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:32 pm

Now my power loss has gone away. I observed the following:

Both leads on battery with no power (key turned off) - 12.2v
Both leads on battery with power on (key in on position) - 12.1v
Both leads on battery with power on and start button pushed - 12.1v

I have 12v to the relay, no power coming out of the relay to the starter. I tested for voltage at the starter itself (on the stud, not the lug) I have no power to it. Brand new relay.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:51 pm

Next,using your voltmeter,measure the volts that operate the solenoid.
There the 2 small wires not the 2 large red ones.Same procedure.Voltmeter direct to each wire.It needs at least 11 volts to fully activate the solenoid.
If its there the solenoid is bad

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:00 pm

I received only .04v on those wires... .03v when the button is pushed in... :|

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:04 pm

So the solenoid dosen't click?

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:05 pm

One of those wires is the neutral safety ground circuit and the other comes from the start button with 12 volts when pushed.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:48 pm

No clicking from relay.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:08 pm

Ok.12 volts leaves the battery,goes through the 30 amp fuse,up the red wire to the ignition switch.It leaves there on a black wire.The black wire also feeds the start button.from there it goes direct to the start solenoid.
The other small wire on the solenoid goes to the neutral safety switch(ground).

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:10 pm

Obviously I'm assuming that the lights are on and the neutral indicator is light bright.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:18 pm

I just checked the voltage at the start button, measures 11.75v with power on and .6v after button pressed.. So I have voltage going to start button but not coming out of it.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:20 pm

That is correct, the lights work and is in neutral... when button is pressed, lights go out completely

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:29 pm

All the lights or just the headlight?

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:35 pm

Just the head Lights, turn signals work if you turn them on front and back.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:34 pm

That's normal.The start button is actually 2switches in one.
If there's no volts coming to the solenoid to make it click,spray some contact cleaner into the start switch or temporarily jump the 2 wires.
Did you download the schematic?
It's free under the Manuals section.

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Re: GL1000 Issues

Postby Mikeyd0577 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Yes I have downloaded it. Already checked out the manuals section 8-) ... I will get some contact cleaner tomorrow and go back at it.

I really appreciate your help. Will let you know how it goes.




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