Gear indicator GL 1000.


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Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby Peter T Sweden » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:03 pm



Hello.

Is there anybody that has designed a gear indicator for a GL 1000.

It must be possible to define a starting point (neutral) and then detect the gear changes up and down.

If not will I give it a chance, it should be nice to have this information during cruising.

Peter T / Sweden.



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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:36 pm

None that I'm aware of..
Should be simple enough tho...2 switches at the gear shift lever....one for stepping up,the other for down....utilize the neutral switch for the "0" reference/reset....

Keep us posted...it could be adapted to many other bikes too....my 1500 (1988) has nothing more than a neutral lamp...it's "iffy" too...

I prefer looking at a LCD display....the LED type are hard to read in the sun and hard to focus on in the dark...

Most of the early 1000-1100's used a neutral switch mounted inside the engine block...they would get contaminated and not completely go to zero ohms,leaving the neutral lamp lit dimly.
Just for your info....
Plenty of ideas float around....how bout a complex math program that determines the gear by comparing the engine rpm to the speed..????

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:45 pm

virgilmobile wrote:Plenty of ideas float around....how bout a complex math program that determines the gear by comparing the engine rpm to the speed..????


That's how most of the universal gear position indicators work. One input from the tach (or it picks it up off the +12V lead as noise) and one pulsed input from the speedometer. You put it into learn mode, then shift it through the gears. It listens to see the different pulse rates from the two inputs and figures out how many gears you have. From that point forward, it uses those memorized ratios to display the correct gear.

I don't know whether or not the GL1000 has a speedometer pulse output or not.

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:01 pm

No,at least not on mine.Altho a reed switch could be fitted into the back of the spedo housing like the 80 interstate with the turn signal cancler system.It switches as the spedo cable spins the spedo magnet.

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:03 pm

There's another programming feature you could add to your bike PC :D

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:08 pm

virgilmobile wrote:There's another programming feature you could add to your bike PC :D


Don't need to - it already hooks into the gear position switch to show the gear it's in:

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:14 pm

Lucky U...the 88/89 only have N..3..4..and..OD...
I guess I'll have to rely on using my fingers :lol:

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:31 pm

virgilmobile wrote:Lucky U...the 88/89 only have N..3..4..and..OD...
I guess I'll have to rely on using my fingers :lol:


Hm, just looked at the schematic for an 89, and it appears to only have N and OD!


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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:00 pm

That one must be different from my 88...mine uses 3 & 4 to enable the cruise and alter the ignition timing...

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:38 pm

Ebay sells a kit of a small LED readout that does up to 6 gears and also displays the N, I have it sitting on my bench ready to install on my 95, it has two Hall effect transmitters and a small super magnet, the processor counts the gears up and down and automatically dims at night as well. The transmitters send signals when the magnet on the shifter passes by either the upper or lower unit. System is cheap and seems to work well if you get all the wobble out of your shifter first.
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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:05 pm

Can you post a pix of it?
Maybe a part number?

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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby silverado6x6 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:04 pm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171050192887?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

From Ebay, cost is $19.99 I selected blue to match my GL1500 illumination. You can get them in other colors.







Digital gear indicator features:

Shows current gear number
Indicates current gear from 1 to max of 8. as well as a neutral indicator.
Auto programming
Compatible with all motorbikes,four wheelers,bikes etc. will fit anything with a shift lever
Red illuminated display will automatically dim at night.
Detects the current gear faster than other gear indicators that use speedometer/tachometer signal.
Display can be mounted anywhere

HOW IT WORKS?
A small magnet mounted on the gear shift lever moves past the upshift and downshift sensor as shifts occur. The shift signals are then sent to the display, where the current gear number is shown.

WHY DO I NEED GEAR INDICATOR?
How many times do you find yourself trying to upshift on the highway just to find out that you are already in the top gear, or try to downshift only to find out you are already in first gear? How often do you get asked what gear you were in around a tight corner? These are just a few examples of the usefulness of this gear indicator.

Installation guide:
Black cable is for -
Red cable is for +
White cable is for neutral (0)
Yellow cable is for the first sensor cable1,
green cable is for the 2nd sensor cable 1
Blue is for the other cables of sensor 1 and 2 together.

Specifications:

Digital gear indicator display
Color: blue
2 shift sensors
1 shift lever magnet
Display Size:26*24*18mm

Of course how the hall sensors are mounted on a Gw is what one must figure out, I have this kit, have not installed it yet, the readout will be placed inside the speedo where the OD and half of the High beam, which will become just an indicator light as mine is way too bright after I did an LED conversion. Sorry about my poor cut and paste, just go to ebay, they have a bunch of these kits, this one seemed like the easiest to install, and its cheap, shipping was slow, took me almost three weeks to get it.
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Re: Gear indicator GL 1000.

Postby Peter T Sweden » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:03 am

It seems that more than a rockey from Sweden is interested in this.

I will test the gear indicator in Ebay on my GL 1000 K3 and be back with the result.

Thank you all for your ideas.

Peter T.




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