New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks


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New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Sun May 11, 2014 2:27 pm



Hi all, I just bought this 76 GL1000 for a steal... its in ok condition needs a little tlc but right now I cant get it to start. The guy I bought it from said he was changing the battery last year and accidently touched the positive terminal to frame with a screw driver and blew the main fuse. He nevet

er got around to locating it and changing it because he worked 2 jobs and had 2 kids in college. I paid a whole $200. I pulled the side cover off to find the main fuse had already been cut out. I put in a new fuse harness and 30amp blade type fuse. Put in a new battery with a fresh charge and turned the key on. Everything lights up as it should telling me there's power. Hit the start button and the sloenoid just clicks, after a few tries I checked the wires to make sure they weren't getting hot (see if there was a short)and to see if I missed a connection....nope all good.
I next tried to just the solenoid with a screw driver and nothing, not even a spark. I found he gave me a new soldenoid in the saddle bag so I changed it. Tried againg and the solenoid still just clicks. I tried to jump this one too and nothing. Next i ran a jummper cable from me truck to the starter to see if I could get it to spin...nope. the last thing I tried and gave me a little hope it I tapped on the starter a few times with a small hammer and I heard it trying to spin a little but not much. I also had put in the kick start lever and kicked it a few times just to rotate the motor but nothing else would happen

So after all that should I pull the starter out and clean rebuild it or just replace it? I also own a 81 cb750 and have an extra starter would that possibly have enough power to crank this bike over?

Thanks for the help in advance.



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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Placerville » Sun May 11, 2014 5:59 pm

You've done everything right so far. First, make very sure that you're working with a healthy battery. Fully charge it then take it to a auto parts store and have them surge test it. If it passes, your good. If not, buy a new one. Once your sure your battery is sound, if you jump the solenoid and the starter doesn't spin, it's the starter. Whack it a few more times with the hammer (nothing brutal) and see if it will free up. If not, you can rebuilt yours (my choice), buy a used one off eBay (not my choice) or pick up a new aftermarket starter (as they're no longer available from Honda). If you buy a new one, I recommend 'Ricks'. Shop around for price.

http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=259
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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Sun May 11, 2014 6:50 pm

Thanks, I figured thats what I had to do and I did see the thread about pulling the starter to clean it up. I will pull it tomorrow and start cleaning it out. Kinda off this topic when I used the kick start lever, isnt it suppose to return on it own? When I kicked it down I had to pull it back up by hand.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Fred Camper » Sun May 11, 2014 8:28 pm

Kick starters do not get much use, so gummed up mechanical s are no big surprise. Perhaps it needs some freeing up. Mine returns fine. I sure would follow that rebuild thread as the carbon buildup makes for much less crank torque and a cleaning often restores full torque for years and years.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Placerville » Sun May 11, 2014 11:39 pm

Fred's right on. Sometimes the kick starters won't even break free due to lack of use after 35 years. You're fortunate yours moves. You can lubricate those from the exterior so, give it some ATF, MMO or some other penetrating lubricant and give it a workout. Don't expect your kicker to be functional in an emergency. A bike has to be in top condition for a kicker to actually get it to fire, no matter how big your leg is. It wasn't until my bike had electronic ignition, rebuilt carbs and new wires and caps that I was able to kick start it. And then, I could only do it once. I use my kicker occasionally to keep it working and to assist fuel movement to the bowls when they're dry (rather than cranking the starter).
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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Mon May 12, 2014 7:48 am

I wasnt expecting to actually start the bike with the kick start...I did read that everything needs to be in top shape to do so.... I will spary it down with some ATF and work it. I did notice that the PO had installed a fuel pump and by passed the automatic petcock or as known on my CB SON OF SATAN...

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Wed May 14, 2014 7:56 pm

Ok So there was a break in this weeks raining, I removed the nut from the cable and the 2 bolts holding the starter on, I pulled it back and i cant get to clear the shift lever. My bike has the floor board set up with the heal/toe shifter. I did remove the floor board and the linkage but can't figure out how the lever comes off on the engine side. Also I do want to put a normal shifter and foot pegs on but the shaft didn't look like it was splined, is there anything I have do to change over?

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Fred Camper » Wed May 14, 2014 8:09 pm

I seem to recall that you need to drop the header and remove one exhaust stud. I think then the shifter can stay on. I removed one with the engine out without removing the shifter or the stud removed but one had to go with the engine in the frame.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Wed May 14, 2014 8:35 pm

when i try to pull it back (the starter) Its hitting the lever and won't clear. I will take a picture tomorrow and post it, but it looks like it will clear the exhaust.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Placerville » Wed May 14, 2014 11:28 pm

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby Fred Camper » Thu May 15, 2014 9:18 pm

Okay, so looks like I did have to remove the shift lever when I did mine last year. How soon we forget. And I did not recall removing two studs, but once you have one out...

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby robtaf » Thu May 15, 2014 10:30 pm

I hate to say this now. But are you sure it was running before you started working on it. I bought my gl1100 5 years ago from a (mechanically inclined) so called mechanic. He had the carbs off it and was getting ready to pull the motor when he decided to sell it. I paid $600 for my bike. I pulled the right hand switch(kill switch) off the bike to change the throttle cables that weren't working and noticed one of the kill switch wires was hanging. needless to say, after fixing that and putting the carbs and new cables back on. The bike started right up. Hope its that simple a fix for you too.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Sat May 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Ok I finally got out to remove the starter, I pulled the hardware for the floor boards then exhaust and 1 stud....next was the shift lever and I couldnt find a bolt or anything to secure it to the shaft. I ended up bending the tab on the shift lever enough to clear the starter, it came right out. Now to take it apart and clean it up.

On the floorboard set up is there a set screw holding it to the splined shaft? i felt around and found what felt like a broken bolt (a bit jagged) but almost flush. I want to use a normal shifter and footpegs so i may drill it out or use a dremel and cut it to get it off.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't start....just clicks

Postby madhouze803 » Sun May 18, 2014 6:56 pm

Well progress was made, I cleaned and rebuilt the starter today then tested it against the battery in my truck and it works!!!! I installed the starter and put every thing back together. Charged the battery while I was doing all this. I got done with putting it back together and installed the battery with a full charge. Bike turns over but wont fire, I will start a new thread for a new issue. Thanks for the Help on the starter.

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Re: New to me 76 GL1000 won't star....just clicks

Postby KenoshaGoldwing » Sun May 18, 2014 10:00 pm

Thanks for your tour through this task. Those for trekking the path and I appreciate knowing the way to go.


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