I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.


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I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 2:53 pm



There were several issues with the old harness in my 1978 GL1000. First, the connector box that holds the 5 connectors neatly in place had been destroyed and so there was just a nest of wires in there. Second, the previous owner did a hack job tying in a fairing harness. Electrical tape and unconnected wires every where!
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 15, 2014 3:01 pm

OK,Where do you have "issues".?

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 3:07 pm

So after swapping out the 2 harnesses I have a few unknown wires to deal with as well as a connector issue. Here are some photos with unknown wires on it. Can you take a look and please help me place them?

Here I have two wires coming out from behind the battery area. It seems to me they would go into this connector since it is set up to take two wires each. Right now it already has the corresponding yellow and blue wires connected to it. Does the yellow connect in with the yellow and the "green" marked one in with the other blue?
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In the right bottom corner is a close up of the red circled wires and the connectors are circled in red above that.
In the right bottom corner is a close up of the red circled wires and the connectors are circled in red above that.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 3:10 pm

Here I have a green wire (I am assuming a ground) that is coming down from the handle bars and then has several connectors going into the connector box. This particular connector could have been added by the Goldwing Butcher who owned this bike before me, so I am not sure where it should go. I don't know if it should just be grounded to the frame or if it needs to connect to another wire.
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 3:13 pm

I also have two wires coming out the wiring harness near the handlebars. One is a very light green and the other yellow. I am looking for their home as well.
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 3:15 pm

Here is another set. Also, coming off the harness. All female.
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 15, 2014 3:19 pm

For your first post..
As far as I can determine,the 2 wires hanging from the engine are from the points...They do connect as you describe..the double connection goes to the condensers....Colors do fade (green..blue) close.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 3:20 pm

And lastly…for the moment. Are these red wires. The previous owner had his own red wire set up on the bike. However, I can see from the harness that it should be a connector. Since I do not have that connector. Is it possible for me to modify my "new" harness to work?
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 15, 2014 3:46 pm

Lastwachter wrote:I also have two wires coming out the wiring harness near the handlebars. One is a very light green and the other yellow. I am looking for their home as well.

The light green goes to your horn...the other contact on the horn should have 12 volts with the key on..When you push the horn button,the light green wire goes to ground blowing the horn...
The yellow wire...There's 2 references to yellow...One goes from the points/condenser to the ignition coil and the other is from the stator and goes to a plug where it's jumped and sent back down...

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 15, 2014 3:56 pm

Lastwachter wrote:And lastly…for the moment. Are these red wires. The previous owner had his own red wire set up on the bike. However, I can see from the harness that it should be a connector. Since I do not have that connector. Is it possible for me to modify my "new" harness to work?


The large red wires...One goes to the regulator module and the second to the ignition switch..They should be both joined together as they come out of the harness...then go to the fuse and from the fuse to the battery post or starter solenoid battery contact....You can also replace that fuse holder with a waterproof LARGE type automotive/marine one and a 30 amp fuse....

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 15, 2014 3:57 pm

Lastwachter wrote:Here is another set. Also, coming off the harness. All female.


Can you tell me what are the color codes of the wires.??

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Thu May 15, 2014 7:49 pm

virgilmobile wrote:
Lastwachter wrote:Here is another set. Also, coming off the harness. All female.


Can you tell me what are the color codes of the wires.??

-Green
-White with Green Stripe
-White or light gray

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Fri May 16, 2014 10:20 am

Looking at the wire diagram, It seems to me that it would go to the Turn Signal Relay. However, there are only two male prongs on that relay. If I remember correctly only the green and white and green were connected to it before (with the old harness). How does that sound to you. It is only showing two prongs in my diagram, but I am thinking that could also just be bad picture quality…

Thanks for all your help!!!
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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Fri May 16, 2014 10:29 am

Its possible that the connectors plug into another sub harness.One end is molded to fit the flasher base pins and he other plug into the loose connectors.
I'll look again.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Fri May 16, 2014 12:16 pm

I just had a break through. I realized that the flasher is missing a male pin on it. When I turned the bike on the flasher was constantly making a ticking noise and the turn signals were not working. When I switched the wires around, the blinkers would turn on (staying solid) but not blink. That is when I realized it is missing a prong. So does anyone know the exact specs I need for a replacement flasher using the OEM lights?

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 16, 2014 12:40 pm

Lastwachter wrote:I just had a break through. I realized that the flasher is missing a male pin on it. When I turned the bike on the flasher was constantly making a ticking noise and the turn signals were not working. When I switched the wires around, the blinkers would turn on (staying solid) but not blink. That is when I realized it is missing a prong. So does anyone know the exact specs I need for a replacement flasher using the OEM lights?


There are two kinds of flashers - two pin and three pin. Electronic flashers are usually three pin. On a two pin flasher, the pins are:

- +12 V in
- Flashed +12 V out

If there is a third pin, it is Ground. Note in your diagram one of the three wires is green - that is ground. If your flasher has two pins, that green wire has no connection.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Fri May 16, 2014 1:05 pm

Thanks for the info. However, with just the two wires plugged in, the light stays solid and does not flash.

On the 12v flasher there is a spot for a third pin but it is just missing. So I went to Advanced Auto and picked up an EP 34 12V Electric Flasher. Hooked it up to the 3 wires and it works like a charm. Flashing appropriately.

NEXT PROBLEM:
I then hooked up the front blinkers (which were aftermarket, "These beautiful 12v signals would look great on a sport bike or a cruiser. The case is made of black ABS plastic. The lights have a clear bulb (type 67) covered by a removable plastic amber insert. ")

I attached the wires and connected the green to a ground on the harness and for a moment they were working perfectly, then they stopped and the bulb went cloudy white. The rear continued to work so I know it was an obvious issue with the front blinkers.

So my question is, was it possibly a faulty ground? Or, is the flasher not compatible? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Fri May 16, 2014 4:39 pm

Replace the lamp.it was cracked.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Fri May 16, 2014 8:13 pm

virgilmobile wrote:Replace the lamp.it was cracked.

You are saying that both the right and left front blinker bulbs were cracked?

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby virgilmobile » Fri May 16, 2014 8:22 pm

Yes.The only time I've seen a lamp burn for a second and then turn white inside,The glass was cracked.
It's just a light bulb,winker powered or not,it simply lights up.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby WingAdmin » Mon May 19, 2014 8:03 am

virgilmobile wrote:Yes.The only time I've seen a lamp burn for a second and then turn white inside,The glass was cracked.
It's just a light bulb,winker powered or not,it simply lights up.


Either that, or they weren't sealed correctly in the first place.

Light bulbs contain a vacuum (or a gas other than oxygen that won't support combustion). This is so that the filament lights up, and doesn't burn up. If the bulb is cracked, or wasn't sealed correctly and is full of air, the filament burns up in the oxygen environment. In the process, it lets off smoke, which is the whitish stuff you now see coating the inside of the bulb.

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Re: I swapped wire harnesses and have a few issues.

Postby Lastwachter » Mon May 19, 2014 8:53 am

Thanks again for the help guys. You were once again of course right. I tried a set of old signals I had from the Buell and they worked just fine. Time to go pick up some new bulbs.




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