Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts


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Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:01 pm



Hi Folks, Having recently bought a GL1000 after a 36 year gap since I owned the same model I have begun to check out various bits on the bike, I have found that 2 of the rocker cover bolts wont tighten up and I want to buy a Helicoil kit to fix the problem but I dont know what size the bolts are, I have a parts manual which gives me all the numbers but I could do to know what size helicoil kit to buy.
Any help would be most appreciated.
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Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:58 am

GL1000-1976-SCX-593P wrote:Hi Folks, Having recently bought a GL1000 after a 36 year gap since I owned the same model I have begun to check out various bits on the bike, I have found that 2 of the rocker cover bolts wont tighten up and I want to buy a Helicoil kit to fix the problem but I dont know what size the bolts are, I have a parts manual which gives me all the numbers but I could do to know what size helicoil kit to buy.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thank You.
E-mail me please john@ormskirkkarate.co.uk


They are 6X63.2 bolts, so a standard M6 kit should work. I would take one of the bolts to a shop to check and make sure the thread pitch is correct.

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Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:57 am

Thanks very much, I will give that a try.

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Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

Postby Fred Camper » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:05 pm

    Bet you already know this. For others reading this post by tightening those bolts more than the manual says will not stop a leak. It is a rubber sealed joint and not much compression is needed provided nobody stuck RTV in there and the rubber is still supple. The rubber around the bolts and the rubber gasket is still available from Mother Honda.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:35 pm

    I have ordered new rubbers from US as the ones on the bike are quite hard and I thought they would benefit from being replaced, because one of the stripped threads is on a bottom bolt I'm getting a slight leak from that rocker cover but having watched various you tube vids I am fairly confident I can carry out the helicoil without problems.
    Just replacing the Coils at the moment for Dynatek ones and I have no wiring experience at all but it seems to be going ok so far!!!!
    Thanks again.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:20 pm

    If you have electronic ignition (no points) and Dynatek coils then you remove the ballast resistor between the coils and connect the two loose wires from the resistor together. Hotter spark all the time that way and the coils can take the heat.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:42 pm

    Fitted the 2 coils though im not keen on the plug caps they send! didnt know you needed to twist the 2 wires together it doesn't tell you that in the blurb as far as I can see, after a bit of fiddling got the bike to fire but to keep it running had to keep my finger on the starter. it revs ok but as soon as you let go of the starter it dies.
    1 added snag is I had a 4 into 1 carb conversion fitted which as it turns out I think was a mistake!!!! so I sent the old carbs to wingovations to be refurbed and I'm going to put them back on.
    I so appreciate any help you can throw my way as I am clueless with mechanical stuff really.
    I,m a joiner/carpenter and can do most anything with wood but when it comes to mechanics I am in very deep water indeed for me.
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    Sorted, Joined the Ballast resistors wires together and it runs like a good en!!
    Thanks for the help..

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:24 pm

    Good to hear you got her fixed. When you hit the starter button one thing it does is to bypass the ballast resistor as that provides a hotter spark for starting. When you release the starter button the ignition circuit runs through the ballast resistor again. So if the ballast resistor has failed, then it stops running when you release the starter button.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby SnoBrdr » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:24 pm

    GL1000-1976-SCX-593P wrote:I have ordered new rubbers from US as the ones on the bike are quite hard and I thought they would benefit from being replaced, because one of the stripped threads is on a bottom bolt I'm getting a slight leak from that rocker cover but having watched various you tube vids I am fairly confident I can carry out the helicoil without problems.
    Just replacing the Coils at the moment for Dynatek ones and I have no wiring experience at all but it seems to be going ok so far!!!!
    Thanks again.


    Did you check David Silver before ordering from the US?

    https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/

    The shipping from the US must be very $$$ and this place has a lot of stuff. I've had to order from them when no one in the whole USA had the part I needed.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:01 am

    I did look on Silvers site but I think there gaskets were aftermarket parts and the ones from the US were a few pounds more but OEM parts so I thought id get those.
    On another topic I was wanting to do the ignition timing but cant seem to find the glass topped plug for the timing hole does anyone know where I could get one or even the part number.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:52 am

    The folks I know with the glass window timing cover fabricated them. My experience is that static timing is fine so a window is not essential on a 1000. Later bikes had more complicated advance and benefit.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:20 am

    Cant be certain but dont think you can static time if you have electronic ignition, If you can I would appreciate info on how to do it?

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:41 pm

    Mine has been electronic ignition since 1985 and Static timing was done just like the manual said to do. Don't recall any being different.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby SnoBrdr » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:48 am

    Fred Camper wrote:Mine has been electronic ignition since 1985 and Static timing was done just like the manual said to do. Don't recall any being different.


    If you EI was setup properly and running correctly, why would you need to set/check the timing?

    We set up my EI in 1979 and it's never been touched since.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:14 am

    My 1985 EI only lasts until 2012. Then started to loose the left bank during warmup. So when the new Dynatek went in I needed to retime. But that is just one aspect of electronic ignition that saves maintenance time. No more filing points either.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:29 pm

    Hi Fred.
    I sent the wing to a specialist mechanic in the UK for a lot of jobs to be done over the winter, whilst most of the work was carried out quite acceptably there were some aspects that could have been better, one being the bike was running very rough and I was struggling to get it in gear, the mechanic came to my home and sorted the clutch adjustment and fitted the electronic ignition and also fitted a single carb conversion set-up, along with new coils (which didn't work) so we put back the originals, I recently bought better coils and you helped me with fitting for which I thank you a great deal.
    I have since sent the original carbs to a Guy in Glasgow (http://www.wingovations.com/services/4579471059) who refurbs carbs and they will be re-fitted when they come back, as we have problems when running slow with the single carb conversion.
    Anyway my reason for wanting to check the ignition timing is more to do with me having doubts as to whether it was done properly in the first place, that is all really.
    Cheers John

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:46 pm

    Wingovations is a great choice. They will not let you down and you will love the way it runs with OEM carbs. The OEM carbs were not designed to sit unused. Be sure to run Marine Sta-Bil or a regular fuel stabilizer and MMO unless you ride several times each week and never leave her parked more than a week. The MMO is for the ethanol in stateside gas so that may be different in Europe. If unsure, ask at Wingovations.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:56 pm

    Thanks Fred,
    I have forwarded your comment to John at Wingovations and I will see what he says, he is posting my carbs back this week so will let you know how I go on fitting them back on.
    :-)

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby SnoBrdr » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:15 pm

    GL1000-1976-SCX-593P wrote:Thanks Fred,
    I have forwarded your comment to John at Wingovations and I will see what he says, he is posting my carbs back this week so will let you know how I go on fitting them back on.
    :-)


    Make sure you use new gaskets on the tubes.

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    Re: Gl1000 Rocker cover Bolts

    Postby GL1000-1976-SCX-593P » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:55 pm

    John At Wingovations sends them with the carb refurb so will be checking everything then setting up with Vacuum gauges.
    Thanks for your reminder..




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