GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel


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GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby eekclegzed » Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:45 pm



OK so I have my 78 wing engine about to assemble, I have a dowel/ pin I don't know where it goes. See pictures attached.. Thanks!
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby f1xrupr » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:27 pm

On the 1100 there is a pin such as that, that slid into one of the flanges, and is held in by the opposing flang, and I "think"...it held in the shift fork tumbler. This is from memory, and my terminology may be a little off...but, I'm sure there was a pin that fitted in the flang for that purpose. Don't forget your chain oiler.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby Dogsled » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:09 am

If f1xrupr is right (I wouldn't have the faintest idea) at least its a good tip on where to look. Go to cyclemax's OEM micro fische and look up that part of the engine and see if you can find that guidepin in the area he said. That was a great clue on where to look though, you should be able to verify it before getting to the bike.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby eekclegzed » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:02 pm

Thanks for the replys. OK so I checked out the micro fiche diagram for the shift fork tumbler but couldn't see the pin. Do you mean the shift drum or the forks. Im having trouble figuring out exactly where you mean..
Dogsled wrote:If f1xrupr is right (I wouldn't have the faintest idea) at least its a good tip on where to look. Go to cyclemax's OEM micro fische and look up that part of the engine and see if you can find that guidepin in the area he said. That was a great clue on where to look though, you should be able to verify it before getting to the bike.

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby SnoBrdr » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:12 pm

eekclegzed wrote:OK so I have my 78 wing engine about to assemble, I have a dowel/ pin I don't know where it goes. See pictures attached.. Thanks!


Can't tell for sure by your picture but: http://www.cmsnl.com/gl1000-gold-wing-1977-usa_model7391/dowel-pin-8x14_9430108140/

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby f1xrupr » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:20 pm

I may have been referring to the drum...the round shaft that the forks ride on that grooves cut in it.

I've been racking my brain today trying to remember exactly where I saw such a pin, but I can't remember! I didn't have a manual for my rebuild, the good Lord, and the net-mostly this site.
It's been about 9 months(?) Since I had it down.....it still seems it had something to do with the shifting...I'm pretty sure it was a shaft it held in place...sorry I can't be of more help...
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby Dogsled » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:40 pm

???????? i had to be in the parts you tore apart.....if it's not there then it didn't cme from there....

'Do you mean the shift drum or the forks. Im having trouble figuring out exactly where you mean..' if thats the area you were tearing apart then that has to be the location of the part.......
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby eekclegzed » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:31 pm

Dogsled wrote:???????? i had to be in the parts you tore apart.....if it's not there then it didn't cme from there....

'Do you mean the shift drum or the forks. Im having trouble figuring out exactly where you mean..' if thats the area you were tearing apart then that has to be the location of the part.......


I tore the whole engine apart a month ago, just got all my new bits bought and upon assembly I found this pin in my parts tray. I'm gonna split the case again and see if I can find where it goes. I also have a feeling it goes somewhere in either the transmission or the shift mechanism.

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby f1xrupr » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:35 pm

Wow...already back together...ummm!!!
Hey, maybe if you hold off a day or so, Wingadmin might chime in with some solid direction-they seem to have some solid avenues...?? That's a solid pin-that seems like it might stand out in the right schematic.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby PedroTQ » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:17 pm

G'day!

I have stripped 4 x GL-1000 engines, rebuilt one for future overhaul if needed, two got the full works, big ends, mains etc, and one got written off as parts.

I have not come across this dowel in any of my engines.

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby eekclegzed » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:07 am

PedroTQ wrote:G'day!

I have stripped 4 x GL-1000 engines, rebuilt one for future overhaul if needed, two got the full works, big ends, mains etc, and one got written off as parts.

I have not come across this dowel in any of my engines.

Regards, Peter.


Thanks for that Peter. I think you might be right I've scoured diagrams and cannot find anything.. Hmm I'm thinking it could be part of the carbs, maybe an alignment dowl for the plenum.. I rebuilt them before I did the engine so I guess I'll look there..

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby dingdong » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:54 am

I think the plenum dowels are hollow. Since you split the cases that might be a case alignment dowel. Have you asked over at the NGW site? They will know for sure.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby SnoBrdr » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:14 am

dingdong wrote:I think the plenum dowels are hollow. Since you split the cases that might be a case alignment dowel. Have you asked over at the NGW site? They will know for sure.


I guess he didn't both to look at the fiche I posted, shows several similar looking dowels.

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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby f1xrupr » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:14 am

Ok...I've racked my brain (or whatever's up there) trying to remember, searched Google images, studied some vary nice pictures on goldwingdocs forum topic titled "1983 GL1100A Engine Whine", and I can't come up with anything that even resembles what I imagined in my mind's eye-I thought for sure I remembered catching a shaft slipping out, and noticing such a pin-at this point however, I must stand down. I work on things all the time-fixing things is my life -that's most of what I do (I'm not complaining)-guess I got a short circuit...sorry.
But....If it was in your parts bin, it must go somewhere.....I hate it when that happens!
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby f1xrupr » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:51 am

I just noticed something-I have 2 of what seems to be the same pins you are showing in your picture-they are in my convertible snap ring pliers.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby dingdong » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:17 am

SnoBrdr wrote:
dingdong wrote:I think the plenum dowels are hollow. Since you split the cases that might be a case alignment dowel. Have you asked over at the NGW site? They will know for sure.


I guess he didn't both to look at the fiche I posted, shows several similar looking dowels.


Solid dowel vs hollow dowel in your fische link. I'm only guessing as to one of the case dowels.
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Re: GL1000 Engine help. Mysterious dowel

Postby eekclegzed » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:09 pm

OK so here's my verdict. This dowel is imperial! GL1000 engine is metric, I believe I'm chasing a red herring. I'm a diesel fuel technician by trade, and building this engine at work I think I part may have slipped into my parts. My boss seems into think its out of a CAT pump... Extremely sorry for wasting your time! :? :cry:




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