GL1000 won't start.


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GL1000 won't start.

Postby marhar » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:51 pm



I just bought a 78 gl1000 the bike wont crank, won't make a clicking noise, light goes out when starter button is pushed, the battery shows over 12 volts. However when you jump the two posts on the retifier[ round thing next to battery ?] the thing will crank but not start. the bike would crank and start and die just before I drained carbs and put fresh gas in. Also when I got the the to crank the key was on ,kill switch was on run but did not show a spark THANKS FOR THE HELP marha



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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby dingdong » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:00 am

The first thing I would do is give the battery a full charge. Showing 12 volts doesn't mean it has enough power to activate the " solenoid". Then I would check all of the connections between the battery and the solenoid for tightness and corrosion. Check cable connections on battery. Check main ground where it connects to the engine/frame. Then the solenoid could be defective as well.
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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby 78AzWing » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 am

The solenoid is the round thing to the rear of the battery. If you touch across the two biggest terminals it will spin the starter if the battery is up to parr.

The rectifier is the largish square thing on the front side (end?) of the battery and probably has cooling fins on it.
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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby firstgen513 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:46 pm

How old is the battery? Like the previous post it may show 12 volts but not have the amps to to do it's job. I would agree that checking connections is also a good place to start. If the bike has been sitting for some time connections could have become corroded. Also take a peek inside the connectors if you can if they look rusty or green you should replace the cables.

Good luck,

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby leanjoe » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:08 am

Have you had any luck yet ? A problem with these bikes is also a bad ign. switch. Years of vibration loosens the connector at the back. Unless you have a fairing on it,it is pretty easy to get to,pull it out and clean it up,put it back together tight.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby rnunley6 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:49 pm

Mike solinoid is making clicking sounds. Does that mean it is bad? I tried shorting it but it still won't start.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby 78AzWing » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:22 pm

I would think that is more likely to be a low battery. Or one that is getting ready to quit on you and needs to be replaced.
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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby rnunley6 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:21 am

That's interestin, because I had someone check the batter and they said it was okay. However, have notice the voltage meter on the motor cycle is reading below 12 volts. Coud it be the starter or alternator that is causing the batter to be drained or something?

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby goldtr6c » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:12 pm

If the voltage is below about 12.5v then the battery is not up to full charge. Look at the volt meter when you hit the starter button. If it drops below about 10v, you need a new battery.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby WingForChrist » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:32 am

this is probably not part of the fix but it was mine and might help others. I picked up my 77' last year and it would not crank at all and the starter was good. previous owner bought another starter thinking it was bad. I promised the wife I would not work on the bike and let it sit till i was finished a project I was doing for her. the last night of the project i was sitting on my bike and saw the wire harness joint on the left side infront of the false tank. Well for some reason I pulled on the two wires from the clutch and they came right out?!?!?!??? :o Well thank God they did. I found were they went in the wire harness and it started to crank with the starter button. Hope this helps someone.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby MarcP1956 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:17 am

If your battery is very old, just replace it. Yes, trying to start the bike can drain the battery. But, your battery seem to loose it's charge very fast. A sure sign that the battery is getting on in age. Replace it with a new good quality battery and rid yourself of that potential problem. That's what I would do anyway. Did you check all your connections are was previously suggested?

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby rnunley6 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:43 am

I tried to work on my motorcycle today. I still cannot get it to start. It seems to be cranking, but still won't start. I had to try to jump my motorcycle to get it up to 12.5 volts. It still would not turn over. I tried to short the solenoid and it did try to crank, but still would not turn over. I don't know about the battery, because it is a brand new battery. Unless I got a bad battery from the store I don't know why I am loosing voltage so fast. However, my guess there maybe more than one problem that is causing it not to start. That is not just the battery, but I will check the battery and the wires once again. Thought about getting a new wiring harness as well. The one on the motorcycle is not in the greatest condition, but I don't know if it is so bad that it is the problem. Thanks for the input that you have been giving. If you have any other suggestions please feel free to let me know.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby MarcP1956 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:58 pm

Replacing the wiring harness is quite serious, and I would doubt that it is necessary. A bad ground, a marginal battery, a weak starter, something siezing up in the engine, too thick of oil and I'm sure there are more possibilities ... a bad wiring harness is not likely. If you have a good connection between the battery and the solenoid and from the solenoid to the starter and you jumped across the large terminals on the solenoid your starter should crank over just fine if your battery is good. If you are loosing enough voltage to prevent the starter from turning over like it should, the wiring would be getting hot. You don't have a mess of driving lights on while your starting your bike do you? If something is drawing enough amps to prevent your engine from turning over, it should be obvious. Hope you get it figured out.

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Re: GL1000 won't start.

Postby CShroom » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:10 am

If it cranks when you short the solenoid, I would hazard a guess that it has kicked the bucket, however you should doublecheck to see if you are getting juice to the smaller poles on it first. Basically a solenoid is a relay and you are using lower amperage to kick it on.

However you can do something like pick up a solenoid for a riding mower to replace it or hunt out a stock one. There are even people that wire in Ford ones.

I am assuming here that when you say turn over, you mean it doesn't fire, but the motor turns?

You need three things to get any motor to run

Fuel, fire, and air. If you are sure that the carbs have fuel, and that they are operational. That leaves only fire.

After that there are only a few points where you would not get any ignition.

Bad points/condenser
Bad coils
Bad plugs.

I would pull and inspect each of them before tearing up the wiring and also make sure that they test out properly with a voltmeter and Ohmmeters. Grab something like a service manual or even a Clymer's and start testing out the components.




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