GL1000 timing marks


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GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:19 pm



im trying to figure out how to get my 1979 gl1000 timed properly but i cant find any good links for the guide ive been having a problem getting the motor to turn over to find out the timing belts are majorly off now i dont have points sadly i have an electric set up probably done by the previous owner
so im hoping someone could give me a link to how to time the bike correctly or something along the lines

i originally thought there was something wrong with the starter or the wiring but after taking everything apart nothing is wrong with any of the would be problems im just timed wrong and its keeping the motor from turning over correctly i did a little adjustment to the belts and got a little bit more from the stater but not enough and i cannot afford a service manual at this moment so it would be a big help if anyone knows a link to a free pdf or a walk through



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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby wingman12 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:32 pm

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum9/17422.html, perhaps this will help you solve your timing problem. :D :D

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:37 pm

just might be the thing im looking for thanx

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby wingman12 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:41 pm

Hopefully it will get you headed in the right direction. Please keep us posted on your progress. :D :D

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby dingdong » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:50 am

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby dingdong » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:55 am

What does "timing belts majorly off" mean in this case exactly? Be very very careful as this is an interference style engine, timing belts off by too much means piston valve collision.
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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:42 am

by majorly i mean at lest 7 teeth off but im sure im the first person to turn her over in years the previous owner messed up allot of things but i have checked compression and the valves there in good shape
the main thing i want to get clear though is when setting
the timing i want both arrows pointing out when turned to T1 like this image right


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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:43 am

sorry image didnt copy right

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby dingdong » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:59 am

Sorry something isn't right here. If you are really out 7 teeth there "will"" be damage. Did you download the manual I linked to earlier? Also look at this. http://www.randakksblog.com/general-gl1 ... ing-guide/
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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby wingman12 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:23 am

Good morning Firagate. As you are looking at your timing wheels, yes the "up" marks need to towards the top and the marks on the wheels face outwards and should line up with the marks on the casing. :D :D

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:47 am

while yes im out 7 teeth there is nothing wrong with the valves and i have great compression i have no knocks granted i have not been able to start the motor but thats because im off in timing and from best guess it because im timed wrong i did a full check and im in good shape i have 2 starters because the first thing i was told is it could be the starter but that was not the case both starters are ome from honda and both do the same thing
and i dont have points the previous owner switched out with electric
the one thing i know is the belts are wrong and the valves and pistons are in great shape
ive worked on motors similar to this like 1600 duel port and flat pan porches

and thank you wingman12 that's what i wanted to make sure before i went any farther

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby wingman12 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:10 am

You are welcome. Keep us posted. :D :D

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby spiralout » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:15 am

Dingdong gave you a link to a service manual in ,pdf. The valve timing procedure is in it but for your electronic ignition timing, it probably depends on the manufacturer.
How do you know your compression is good when your valve timing is so out of whack and the motor has trouble turning over?

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:25 pm

its 180 degrees off basically 7 teeth off and i can get it to turn over without the spark plugs in i have a compression checker im new to gold wings not new to working on engines ive rebuilt vw motors and regular street bike motors i just finished restoring and selling a 1987 ex500 ive already pulled the heads off to check for sludge and while doing so i checked the valves and pistons they are clean and seat right as well like i said the previous owner had no clue what he was doing put allot together wrong and decided to sell it because he was no mechanic to be more accurate he owns a vw and from my guess he thought he could time it the same way as the 1600 is timed and thats the problem he never actually got the bike started i bought it for 600$ knowing i would have at least another 600$ to through into it before getting her to run but i like doing that because i am a mechanic and enjoy restoring old bikes

my point being she has compression and i appreciate the help i just needed to know the timing marks
and ill keep it updated and let you know my progress it will probably be a month or so before i get her running correctly i have allot to replace
she has been sitting for a long time more than a few years

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:39 pm

well i got her running sounds great smokes like crazy nice wight but to be expected considering how long its been since she has ran still a tooth off advanced timing so ill fix that tomorrow
i bought her a week and a half ago in rough shape everything locked up front and back master cylinder froze breaks seized spent a week straight working on her now shes almost ready to ride down the road thanx for the help
i still have allot of cosmetic things and front and rear tires but nothing i cant handle

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:40 pm

thats her a week ago when i went and picked her up
dusty and unwanted when im done ill post a picture of her restored
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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby wingman12 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:00 pm

Nice job, glad to hear your new ride is up and running. Looking forward to the rebuild pictures. :D :D

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby Old Fogey » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:52 pm

I've got to say I'm amazed that you had no valve damage with it 7 teeth out. I had a 1200 in with 3 teeth out and you could hear the noise from the street inside the workshop.
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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby ekvh » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:43 am

Pretty lucky. Must have been enough ahead to clear. Very lucky. Seven teeth is about 1/6 of the cam turn. Very lucky. Were they both off?

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Re: GL1000 timing marks

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:41 pm

just one side i have her running great now starts up almost first try every time trying to clean out the tank right now as you probably know that means the bike is half way torn down right now lmao
but for a bike that has no history that is know and sat for a untold amount of years my guess probably around 30 years considering the grease turned to brown tack and the so called diesel that was put in the tank had enough sludge in the bottom to make a 1 pound brick out of it
she sound great and runs perfectly

Ive done this to allot of different vehicles a 1971 vw westfalia camper ,1969 vw bug ,1989 Kawasaki EX500 , and a few other vehicles as well i enjoy bringing life back to classic rides
this bike might be a keeper love the look haven't been able to ride down the road yet but hopefully in a month or so but im sure its going to be a nice ride :)
this forum has helped out




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