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1979 broken float post

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:30 am



i found a float post repair kit and i was wondering if anyone has ever tried it before because sadly i broke my float post in my carb here is the link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-GL1000-Go ... oD&vxp=mtr
let me know if anyone has ever given this a try and if it actually worked



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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby dingdong » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:57 am

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby Old Fogey » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:07 pm

Got to say that looks a good bit of kit. $60 sounds expensive but there's a lot of work to produce that.
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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby firagate » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:20 pm

yeah and allot better than buying a new carb just because one broken post i tried jb weld and a few other thing it works for a couple days and then deteriorate and clogs all the jets
considering how much work i have left to do to the bike i need to do a permanent fix so i can move on to other things i cannot have every other day going out to work on the bike and then realizing i need to fix and clean the carbs again before i can do the original fix i went out to do
ive worked on the carbs more than i have spent working on the bike every 2 or 3 days i have them off and in my room cleaning them and thats a can of carb cleaner every time :shock:

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:06 am

If you could find someone capable of it and delicate enough, you might be able to tack-weld it back in place. I like the $60 eBay fix, myself.

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby Old Fogey » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:11 am

Sorry Admin, but it's impossible to weld Zamak, I'm afraid. (Mazak to the Euro guys.) Although I admit that the Jap version has more aluminium content than ours, but I still reckon impossible.
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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:42 am

Old Fogey wrote:Sorry Admin, but it's impossible to weld Zamak, I'm afraid. (Mazak to the Euro guys.) Although I admit that the Jap version has more aluminium content than ours, but I still reckon impossible.


Right, of course, was thinking aluminum. I saw a video of a guy who melted down some pot metal and poured it into a piece of angle iron to form a rod. He then used that and a torch to solder a repair on a broken piece of pot metal.

Interesting that the J-B Weld broke down in gasoline, as it is supposed to be impermeable to gas. Perhaps it was not fully cured? They do recommend their Water Weld epoxy putty product for use in submerged gasoline, that might also be worth a try.

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby Old Fogey » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:57 am

The trouble with pot metal is that you heat it, not enough, so you heat it some more, not enough so you heat it some more.........BAM no carburettor!
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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby mrtwowheel » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:56 pm

That ebay looks like a nice piece of machine work and very well thought out. The price is just reasonable compared to the time and trouble that it would save. One screw installation, no further machine work, other than grinding down the old posts. I sure wish they had a picture of one installed. We sure could use some more products like this on the market for, hard to deal with, problems. Someone needs to market stock header to aftermarket muffler, adapter, exhaust pieces, especially 4 into 2 for the popular vertical fours. I think there would be a good demand for these exhaust adaptors at a good price.

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:55 am

BUY FROM RANDAKK...He supports Goldwings..and his products are always top notch.
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby Old Fogey » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:32 am

mrtwowheel wrote: We sure could use some more products like this on the market for, hard to deal with, problems. Someone needs to market stock header to aftermarket muffler, adapter, exhaust pieces, especially 4 into 2 for the popular vertical fours. I think there would be a good demand for these exhaust adaptors at a good price. Scott


The problem with this is that Demand and Purchase are two totally different things. Trust me, I know.
I have tried to gauge a demand for a product, heard a mad clamouring for it, but when I do a pre-order test (you know the sort of thing 'These will be ready in three weeks time, limited quantity, to pre -order only', the silence is deafening.

I'll give you a couple of examples:
The 1000 and 1100 four cylinder Wings have a reputation for noisy primary drives. Most of the advice to cure is synchronise the carbs, or replace the chain or fit a sprung chain tensioner to the early 1000. But there are two other likely possibilities; the shock clutch absorber rubbers on the 1000 and the alternator shock absorber rubbers on both the 1000 and the 1100. These rubbers go like rock eventually and disintegrate due to the heat. I recently stripped down 6 alternator shock absorbers and found the rubbers gone on all of them!
So this is a problem, but perhaps one that owners don't realise.

One of the German posters on NGW One of the NGW members found a company that is marketing a kit for the clutch shock absorber on the GL1000, in Germany. In truth I was amazed at that, since it is only useful for the 1000.
I've been looking at getting the rubbers for the alternator shock absorber made, and the member above asked the owner of this company about doing them.
He was not interested. He reckoned 1500€ / $1600 for the mould and a minimum order quantity of 1000 pieces.

Hmmmm........! There's 12 pieces in each shock absorber and let's assume a manufacturer cost of $5/piece. Selling kits of 12 pieces at a time, that's 80 sets.
$60 plus $20 share of the mould price takes it to $80 before any taxes, shipping, packaging and the dirty word,...profit.

How many owners do you know that want to delve into the engine to replace these? It would take a very looooong time to shift 80 sets.

I even asked Randakk about it, knowing that he has rubber parts made for him. Part of his reply was:
"the economics on internal engine parts like this are VERY Poor. I would have to pay for the tooling and buy about 3 lifetime's worth of initial inventory to get the per piece price down to "barely reasonable."
So, these are not attractive business opportunities for me these days."

Ok, that's one that at the moment that is not going anywhere.

But there's another that is being produced.

GL1000 owners have been complaining for years about the price and availability of the horseshoe muffler for the 75-77 models. Even really rough used ones seem to fetch good money.
A company in England, who have a very innovative way of manufacturing sheet metal panels, has taken this on board and produced perfect replicas, even to the internal baffling. New chromed side pieces and polished stainless end tips. Beautiful! They are also doing the headers.
I heard the howls of derision when the price for the full system of somewhere around $1400 was announced. " I could buy 3 bikes for that" "who'se gonna pay that when they can get Harley take-offs for $5" etc etc .

My point is that you can't do small runs of a limited demand item, especially when there are many different parts to it like these mufflers, without having a massive price at the end. This company was very brave in my opinion (or didn't do their market research properly) to dive into this product.
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Re: 1979 broken float post

Postby firagate » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:40 am

i bought it and it works great easy installment and its a solid piece




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