Audrey - '78


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Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:51 am



Hello fellow owners and happy new year! I am 39 from South Africa and I recently became the proud owner of a 1978 GL1000. I am new to big road bikes and spent most of my time on two wheels with two stroke road bikes and motocross/enduro machines. My other bikes are 1983 Honda CD200 RoadMaster and 2005 Aprilia RS125 SF.

I am going to preserve the bike and keep her rolling for as long as I can. Looking to replace the exhausts with stock if I come across some over here although I quite like the look of these.

Took her for a ride today and the battery was acting up, I saw on the voltage meter that when I have the lights on especially high-beam mode the voltage would drop to 10v and off it reported above 14v. Going to inspect the battery now but would be good to get some suggestions as to what else I can lookout for?

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby dingdong » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:36 am

Welcome to the forum. Congratulations on the new gl1000. There is a connector beside the battery that connects the stator to the voltage regulator with three yellow wires. Check that connector. It is a common failure with these bikes. If it looks burned you will need to cut the connector out and solder the three yellow wires together. It is usually recommended to do this anyway to prevent this problem. Another cause can be faulty ground points. Check the main ground cable that connects the battery to the frame. It becomes corroded at the frame connection. There are other causes but these are the main ones.
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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:48 am

Thanks Tom, will check it out! I was looking at the '78 manual and that seems to only have the single fuel meter on the tank and a kickstart in the side compartment. Mine has the 3 meters and does not have the kick start in the side compartment. My serial number starts with GL2. I am guessing a '79 manual is what I need, anyone have access to a '79 owners manual?

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:40 pm

Can I connect jumper cables to a car batt and my bike batt and try to start the bike that way to eliminate that the batt is an issue? Not sure if I can post this here as continuation of my bikes thread?

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Ncscooter » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:01 pm

I believe the 78 had the 3 gauges on the faux tank. Does she turn over and start well? I would check the voltage across the battery with it running. It might be the bikes gauge is off. Your manual will also describe how to check the charging current at the battery. Welcome to the forum!
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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:21 pm

Thanks, weird thing or maybe not so weird for the experts. On the battery it sounds like it wants to turn but just not enough oomph. When I connect jumpers on the car and to the bike batt the solenoid just clicks loudly and the starter does not move at all. Also seems like it is shorting this way as the car loses rpm when I push the starter button on the bike. Am I doing something wrong here?

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Ncscooter » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:36 pm

DO NOT have the car running when you jump. Take the battery to an auto parts store and have it checked.
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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Ncscooter » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:44 pm

The yellow wire thing is something to look at as well, and the dog bone fuse back under the solenoid. One shop manual will cover 75-79. There is another forum for these Classic Gold Wings that has the manuals. I f you sign on to that site, you can find it. I like this forum, folks are real friendly and informative.
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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:24 pm

The starter motor on these get carbon buildup for brush activity. There are threads here on cleaning up the starter. They work like new afterwards. If your battery is good, the cleaning the starter is next provided the fuse is good also.

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:33 pm

Thanks Fred, sounds like the starter project is on the cards. Before I go in would like to rule out any other culprits. Still stumped on why it will click but not turn over with a car battery in parallel but yet with the bikes battery it want to turn.

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Ncscooter » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:11 pm

Once the battery checks out good, you can jump the solenoid or connect from the starter's terminal to the + side of the battery. Think it was mentioned to make sure the earth connected to the rear upper engine mount is clean and tight.
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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby SnoBrdr » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:46 pm

jaqkar wrote:Thanks Tom, will check it out! I was looking at the '78 manual and that seems to only have the single fuel meter on the tank and a kickstart in the side compartment. Mine has the 3 meters and does not have the kick start in the side compartment. My serial number starts with GL2. I am guessing a '79 manual is what I need, anyone have access to a '79 owners manual?


You definitely have a 78 with that setup of the gauges.

Forget about finding a NEW stock exhaust or if you did it would be thousands of USD.

About 95% of NOS parts are no longer available at any price, which is too bad.

BTW, change the timing belts NOW unless you see paperwork that shows they were done recently.

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:28 am

Update:
Tried starting with the battery fully charged and got the same result. Also jumped solenoid and same story. Measured voltage on the starter and good ground, pushed the starter button and got 12.5v. What does a starter with carbon build up do, not turn at all? Guess starter needs to come out.

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby Fred Camper » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:40 pm

Sure seems like it is time to clean out the inside of the starter. Not a bad job. Getting it out is easier the second time. Seems like it is essential to remove the header and if you have a horseshoe muffler that means dropping in down on both sides. You also need to remove one exhaust stud if I recall correctly. This thread has the details;

http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=259

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby 79wingman01 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:16 pm

I had the same issue with my 79 GL1000. I took apart the starter and cleaned it just like the above link said and it worked. My starter cranks right over like new. I had taken it to get rebuilt but lucky for me the shop was backed up and couldn't get it done for awhile. I picked it up and and did it myself. Only part I found d challenging was reassembling it. Patience is definately a virtue. It really wasn't bad. Saved 75 bucks too.

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Re: Audrey - '78

Postby jaqkar » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:14 am

Hi guys, took the starter out earlier this week. Found that the commutator was corroded and only the tip was being touched by the brushes. Turns out one of the brush spring holders was bent and not pushing it forward enough.

Saw this video on removing the starter and was much easier than I thought it would be:


Cleaned it all up and now starts like a dream!!! Thanks for your input everyone. Great community! :D




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