headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter


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headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby 79wingman01 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:57 am



Hello. I'm brand new to the forum. My first question is about the headlight. Is it supposed to come on when the key is on or only when it's running? I bought the bike from someone at work and he removed the starter because it was locked up. I have it at the shop getting rebuilt now. The gear that the head of the starter presses into is still attached to the chain. Which brings me to Mt second question. Can the bike be push started this way, or will something get damaged if I try?



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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby redbug » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:47 am

Welcome to the forum. NO....do not start. Yes the headlight will come on. For ease of insulation of starter it is best to have it on the side stand. There is write up on remove and install starter in the how to section. Hope this helps. You come back soon, keep us posted.
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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:32 pm

The headlight will turn on as soon as you turn the ignition key to ON. It will go out only for as long as you push the start button, or when you turn the ignition off again. It doesn't matter if the engine is actually running or not.

Do not attempt to start the engine with the starter not installed. It will pump the oil out of the engine through that hole, you'll have a huge mess to clean up, and that will be the end of your engine.

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby Fred Camper » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:33 pm

Next time be sure to search here on the starter, as they typically do not need a rebuild but just a good internal cleaning. But glad someone stopped you from running it without a starter as that would have caused damage. If you do not get the headlight on with the ignition on, then you have a wiring issue. And do not leave the key in ignition on without the engine running for over 10 minutes as a coil can get very hot during that time depending on the location of the points.

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby 79wingman01 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:08 pm

Thanks guys for the advice. My GL1000 has the Vetter fairing and I'm trying to find the wiring to headlight and it seems that you can't pull the headlight out from the front. I don't see where the wiring goes to the back of the headlight. Is it going to require pulling the fairing to get to anything?

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby Fred Camper » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:14 pm

Never had a unit with a Vetter, but the headlight bucket in a stock wing has lots of wires and junctions. I think they leave the stock headlight in place to avoid moving all the wires, and put a second headlight into the vetter. So you may just need to access the old headlight unit, which is just in front of the speedometer/tach. Better if a Vetter expert chimes in.

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby redbug » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:36 pm

On most vetter fairings there is a plug-in on in left inside of the fairing. Some had a plug that pluged in and then plugged into the headlight plug. A extension cord of sorts. Now on the head light, should be a screw on the bottom of the chrome ring. Remove the ring, then you go to the adjustable head light knob on the inside of the fairing, should be top center, remove the knob, take the nut off and washers, then push and wiggle out the light assembly. Should come out as a unit. Note: after you remove the chrome headlight ring, you should see a headlight ring retainer with 3 screws. That will get the headlight out on its own and not the assembly. This is all from memory, will get you in the ball park.
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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby 79wingman01 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:42 am

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll have to check all this after work sometime this week. I suspect it's probably just a burnt out headlight because all the rest of the lights work. There is some wiring that needs some addressing because of the type of cheap connectors someone used to slice wires years ago. That may be the problem or part of it anyway. Thanks again.

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby 2oldwings » Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:33 pm

There is a depression/tab on the back of the Vetter headlight ring (it should be near the bottom). Depress the tab and rotate the ring anticlockwise to remove the ring. Be careful your headlight doesn't fall out onto your front fender (don't ask).
Do not attempt to start the bike - or even turn the motor over manually - without the starter in place or your testicles will shrivel and drop off.

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:37 pm

2oldwings wrote:There is a depression/tab on the back of the Vetter headlight ring (it should be near the bottom). Depress the tab and rotate the ring anticlockwise to remove the ring. Be careful your headlight doesn't fall out onto your front fender (don't ask).
Do not attempt to start the bike - or even turn the motor over manually - without the starter in place or your testicles will shrivel and drop off.


And don't ask how he knows THAT either. :)

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Re: headlight question and starting GL100 without a starter

Postby 79wingman01 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:42 pm

Thanks guys. I figured out about the tab but it was still a bear to twist the ring. Lol about shriveled testicles. I got the starter rebuilt. Just have to get time to put it back on. Rain the next few days unfortunately. :|




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