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weeping hole

Postby pablo63 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:25 pm



weeping hole
So I have a little oil very slowly leaking from the weeping hole , the small hole just below the water pump , no signs of any coolant and from what I have read this might just be the o-ring from the motor side not sealing properly or the aluminium washers from the bolts on the engine side , it's been like this for a while and just need some advice whether I could cont operating the bike like this or could this get really bad and blow a seal and have the oil pouring out whilst riding the bike .

thx , Paul



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Re: weeping hole

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:05 pm

Generally this is caused by the bearings in the water pump failing, causing enough movement that the seals start to wear, allowing oil to pass. You can probably make it to the end of the season if it's not too bad, but I would plan on changing your water pump this winter.

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Re: weeping hole

Postby pablo63 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:11 am

I had bought the bike in april this year and noticed the small quantity of oil below the bike when I parked it for a few days , even blocked the hole with a q-tip head which seemed to have stopped or atleast slowed the leak for a while as it's not under pressure ,
That was sort of my plan to repair over the very long winter ,7 mnths ,as where I live the riding season is just about finish ,the bike might also go up for sale .
Thx , Paul

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Re: weeping hole

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:54 am

pablo63 wrote:I had bought the bike in april this year and noticed the small quantity of oil below the bike when I parked it for a few days , even blocked the hole with a q-tip head which seemed to have stopped or atleast slowed the leak for a while as it's not under pressure ,
That was sort of my plan to repair over the very long winter ,7 mnths ,as where I live the riding season is just about finish ,the bike might also go up for sale .
Thx , Paul


No!! Never, ever block that weep hole! This is unfortunately a "solution" to this "leak" performed by many unknowing owners. I have seen this "leak" fixed by jamming a wood screw into the hole, using epoxy, caulk, and even a piece of wood. This is the first time I've heard of a Q-tip being used.

This hole is there for two, very important reasons:

1. To let the owner know that a seal in the water pump has failed
2. To give the leaking fluid a path to exit, so that it is not forced into the other system - i.e. if the oil side has failed, it keeps oil from being forced into the coolant system. If the coolant side has failed, it keeps coolant from being forced into the crankcase. If you plug it up, this is precisely what happens.

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Re: weeping hole

Postby pablo63 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:17 am

I hear you and understand & agree with what you are saying , it actually just slowed the seepage but never really stopped it as the q-tip is porous
from what I have read as the oil is not under pressure & no signs of any coolant this might just be the o-ring from the motor side not sealing properly or the aluminium washers from the bolts which hold the water pump in place , is this correct

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Re: weeping hole

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:07 pm

pablo63 wrote:I hear you and understand & agree with what you are saying , it actually just slowed the seepage but never really stopped it as the q-tip is porous
from what I have read as the oil is not under pressure & no signs of any coolant this might just be the o-ring from the motor side not sealing properly or the aluminium washers from the bolts which hold the water pump in place , is this correct


The oil is definitely under pressure, that's why it is getting pushed past the seals.

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Re: weeping hole

Postby dingdong » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:00 am

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Re: weeping hole

Postby pablo63 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:45 am

those are two very usefull threads and thx for that as they explain clearly what's going on with the water pump , it will probably be a long cold winter so removing and repairing the water pump will be on the list of things to do ,

Thx , Paul

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Re: weeping hole

Postby sfruechte » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:52 am

My 77 was getting oil in the coolant and the only thing I could find wrong was a little seal under the front engine cover that came with the gasket kit. I replaced the water pump anyway since I had it apart and had a new one but there was nothing wrong with the old pump at 216,000 miles.




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