Help with Tire Selection and What is Available


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Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:31 pm



I hate to ask this old topic, but I am looking for tires for the 1975 GL1000 I just got. I would like to stick with sizes similar to stock. There does not seem to be many choices out there. The 20 year old tires on the bike are flat and not made any more.

Would prefer tube type because they are so much easier to mount. Is anyone running tubless with tubes? What about radials - I would be a little concerned about doing that.

What brand and what model and size are you using. Shinko tires seem to be available in the most sizes but are mostly tubless.

Sorry to ask this question and I did read through old threads looking for suggestions.

Thanks,
Al



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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by SnoBrdr » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:33 pm

fatalbert wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:31 pm
I hate to ask this old topic, but I am looking for tires for the 1975 GL1000 I just got. I would like to stick with sizes similar to stock. There does not seem to be many choices out there. The 20 year old tires on the bike are flat and not made any more.

Would prefer tube type because they are so much easier to mount. Is anyone running tubless with tubes? What about radials - I would be a little concerned about doing that.

What brand and what model and size are you using. Shinko tires seem to be available in the most sizes but are mostly tubless.

Sorry to ask this question and I did read through old threads looking for suggestions.

Thanks,
Al
If you have a stock 75 with spoked wheels you don't have a choice as to tube/tubeless.

You can always run a tube in a tubeless tire far as I know.

I currently have Bridgestone Spitfires S11s on my bike. Some have said they are no longer made.

The current hot tire are the Shinkos but I have no direct knowledge of them.

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by Solina Dave » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:30 am

Al,
I have a '78 GL. I had run Bridgestone Spitfire II tires for years, but now they're difficult to impossible to obtain. So I had to go on the hunt for an alternative.
I ended up ordering and receiving a pair of Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires. They've been getting very good reviews, and are priced right. But I won't be able to install them, and test them out until the spring. I believe that your '75 takes the same size tires. (130/90-17 rear and 100 or 110/90-19 front). They're tubeless, but like SnoBrdr says you'll need tubes for your spoked wheels.

I live up here in Ontario, and deal with a supplier called Fortnine. This supplier has the widest range of potential tires that work for me. But I'm sure they're all probably available in the U.S. As Canadian prices go, I priced out tires that fit these GLs, in pairs, as follows: Duro HF-918($149.00), Kenda K657($185.00), Shinko 230 Tour Master($203.00), Bridgestone Battlax BT-45($284.00), Dunlop D404($295.00), Michelin Pilot Active($312.00), Pirelli Sport Demon($342.00). There doesn't seem to be very many, if any other tires that will fit GL1000s, but that's a pretty good selection. I would strongly advise you to avoid Metzeler tires. Check out this link: viewtopic.php?t=37981

Good luck in your hunt. I hope this helps............................................Dave
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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by SnoBrdr » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:22 am

Solina Dave wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:30 am
Al,
I have a '78 GL. I had run Bridgestone Spitfire II tires for years, but now they're difficult to impossible to obtain. So I had to go on the hunt for an alternative.
I ended up ordering and receiving a pair of Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires. They've been getting very good reviews, and are priced right. But I won't be able to install them, and test them out until the spring. I believe that your '75 takes the same size tires. (130/90-17 rear and 100 or 110/90-19 front). They're tubeless, but like SnoBrdr says you'll need tubes for your spoked wheels.

I live up here in Ontario, and deal with a supplier called Fortnine. This supplier has the widest range of potential tires that work for me. But I'm sure they're all probably available in the U.S. As Canadian prices go, I priced out tires that fit these GLs, in pairs, as follows: Duro HF-918($149.00), Kenda K657($185.00), Shinko 230 Tour Master($203.00), Bridgestone Battlax BT-45($284.00), Dunlop D404($295.00), Michelin Pilot Active($312.00), Pirelli Sport Demon($342.00). There doesn't seem to be very many, if any other tires that will fit GL1000s, but that's a pretty good selection. I would strongly advise you to avoid Metzeler tires. Check out this link: viewtopic.php?t=37981

Good luck in your hunt. I hope this helps............................................Dave
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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:55 pm

Thanks to all for the advise. I will check out the suggestions. Sorry for the late reply, but have been out of town and without access to the internet grid.

Thanks
Al

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:48 am

I kind of arrived at putting the Shinko 230 tire on the bike because of price point and how much I will be riding it.

The tires on it now are Goodyear Eagle - front ML-19 and rear MT-19. This translates to 110-90-19 and 130-90-17. There is only about a 1/4 inch of clearance on either side of rub points.

Is anyone currently running the 110 and 130 on their 75-77 Goldwings? and have they had any problems?

Thanks,
Al

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:21 pm

Just a follow up. I went with the Shinko tires 100-90-19 front, 130-90-17 rear. They are V rated. They look like decent tires and I like the tread pattern. There are some other tires out there but some of them are not rated or recommended for heavy loads (bikes).

They showed up today. It will be fun getting a tubless tire and an inner tube installed. I use a No Mar motorcycle tire machine so it make it a little less challenging.

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:54 am

fatalbert wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:21 pm
Just a follow up. I went with the Shinko tires 100-90-19 front, 130-90-17 rear. They are V rated. They look like decent tires and I like the tread pattern. There are some other tires out there but some of them are not rated or recommended for heavy loads (bikes).

They showed up today. It will be fun getting a tubless tire and an inner tube installed. I use a No Mar motorcycle tire machine so it make it a little less challenging.
hmm, you using a tub on your bike, planning on taking a bath?? LOL

hope you meant TubeLess....
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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by SnoBrdr » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:07 am

fatalbert wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:21 pm
Just a follow up. I went with the Shinko tires 100-90-19 front, 130-90-17 rear. They are V rated. They look like decent tires and I like the tread pattern. There are some other tires out there but some of them are not rated or recommended for heavy loads (bikes).

They showed up today. It will be fun getting a tubless tire and an inner tube installed. I use a No Mar motorcycle tire machine so it make it a little less challenging.
Nice to have that kinda $$$ to have your own changer.

How do you balance them ?

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:19 am

I have a devise for balancing that just uses gravity to find the heavy spot on the wheel. I got it with the No Mar, but I had previously made one using four skate board bearings. Easy to make and works.

Appreciate the posts from people interested in providing help or additional technical questions about the subject.

Al

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by thrasherg » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:24 pm

If you can bring the tyres into the house 24 hours before you want to fit them, tubeless tyres do have stiffer sidewalls than tubed tyres, but if you get them warm they go on much easier. Keeping them in the house for 24 hours usually makes them warm enough to get on easily.. :D

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by SnoBrdr » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:30 pm

thrasherg wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:24 pm
If you can bring the tyres into the house 24 hours before you want to fit them, tubeless tyres do have stiffer sidewalls than tubed tyres, but if you get them warm they go on much easier. Keeping them in the house for 24 hours usually makes them warm enough to get on easily.. :D

Gary
Hence the "fire" trick to mount tires.

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by thrasherg » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:08 pm

SnoBrdr wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:30 pm
thrasherg wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:24 pm
If you can bring the tyres into the house 24 hours before you want to fit them, tubeless tyres do have stiffer sidewalls than tubed tyres, but if you get them warm they go on much easier. Keeping them in the house for 24 hours usually makes them warm enough to get on easily.. :D

Gary
Hence the "fire" trick to mount tires.
I only know the fire trick to seat the tyres, spray lighter fluid inside the tyre (once its on the rim) and then light it, the rapid expansion inflates the tyre and seats it on the rim!! Looks very dodgy to me so I have never tried it!! Not sure what fire trick you are referring to, to help mount the tyres!! maybe you could explain and we could all benefit? :D

Gary

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by fatalbert » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:19 pm

OK, I got my motorcycle into the house and hid it in the spare bedroom. I just hope my wife doesn't find it for the next 24 hours.

She's not home right now so I'm baking the painted headers in the oven. I hope the smell is gone before she gets home. Hope she's not so mad about the smell that she decides to sleeps in the spare bedroom.

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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:33 pm

Just laid down a bet on whether you live thru the end of the weekend. LOL
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Re: Help with Tire Selection and What is Available

Post by SnoBrdr » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:02 pm

thrasherg wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:08 pm
SnoBrdr wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:30 pm
thrasherg wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:24 pm
If you can bring the tyres into the house 24 hours before you want to fit them, tubeless tyres do have stiffer sidewalls than tubed tyres, but if you get them warm they go on much easier. Keeping them in the house for 24 hours usually makes them warm enough to get on easily.. :D

Gary
Hence the "fire" trick to mount tires.
I only know the fire trick to seat the tyres, spray lighter fluid inside the tyre (once its on the rim) and then light it, the rapid expansion inflates the tyre and seats it on the rim!! Looks very dodgy to me so I have never tried it!! Not sure what fire trick you are referring to, to help mount the tyres!! maybe you could explain and we could all benefit? :D

Gary
No, you nailed it.



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