I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000


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I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:17 am



I bought a '79 GL1000 and it's my first bike ever. I bought it for $300usd it turns on but once I push the choke down, the bike turns off. I've replaced the battery but now I don't know where to go from there. I know that it needs an oil change (I used to own a fox body mustang and have taken some automotive classes at my local community college) a rear tire and upon further inspection, a lot of the wiring is disconnected. It takes me a good solid 5 minutes to start up the bike, sometimes less. Also I need to change the brake fluid, basically an entire tune up. I don't know where to really begin as it's my first bike and I don't want to ruin it more than it already is. I need help with it. Any suggestions?



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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:06 am

How long do you let it run before you turn off the choke and it dies?

Did you put the fuel in it? If not, you might want to drain it and replace the fuel. You could also dump a can of Seafoam in the tank.

A GL1000 is quite a bit of bike as a first motorcycle!

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby artgrantz » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:33 am

Welcome to motorcycling. My first bike was a 75 GL1000, I loved it.
How long do you let it run before turning of the choke. Mine would have to warm up a bit before it would run without the choke.
Try spraying carb cleaner directly into the air box with the engine running, that may help.
The wiring on the GL1000s wasn't too complicated and a wiring diagram was included in the owners manual. When I bought the bike I wrote to Honda in California and asked if I could purchase a manual, they sent me one free. You can find them on eBay from time to time.
If the bike has not been accessorized too much you should be able to sort out the wiring fairly easily.
Good luck and have fun.

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Postby RBGERSON » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:49 am

Read this and then look at the rest of the site..

http://www.randakks.com/TechTip24.htm

This is the best source of good in of on goldwings..
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

FAIR WINDS,
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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:56 pm

I let it idle and warm up for about two to five minutes and then it sounds like it's going to turn off and then I'll take the choke off and it'll turn off.

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Postby bandit12 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:13 pm

How long has it be seting i just got mine up and runing it had be down for over 8 mons. it was keep in side the hole time but the carbs are very tempermental on these bikes so i have been told. if it's been out u my want to see about cleaning the carbs. be for u send it out averg cost for here in FL is $500 to $600 to R&R carbs.
good luck and ride safe.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:20 pm

Luckily it was just the batterie and I was just getting impatient with the bike. Thank you fir the help and advice.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby thrasherg » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:17 am

But with the engine idling on the choke it should have been charging the battery (assuming the battery was good enough to start the engine) it should have been good enough to keep the engine running afterwards with the additional charge from the alternator. You might want to check that the new battery is being charged, you could have an alternator/regulator issue which will strand you with a flat battery a few miles down the road. Glad to hear you fixed the initial problem but I would just check the charging system, is working correctly,

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:13 am

Ok so the charging system works good but my new problem is that I had to take it to the CHP to verify the vin on the bike, I filled up the tank and drove it 21 miles to get to the CHP office and 21 miles back home. The point is that by the time I got home, the gauge read 1/2 full. I also noticed that it ran hot to where I can feel the heat, <--- is that normal?

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:28 am

Also I observed that the speed gauge doesn't work either and does not show the speed of bike or the amount of mikes traveled, any suggestions?

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Dulok wrote:Ok so the charging system works good but my new problem is that I had to take it to the CHP to verify the vin on the bike, I filled up the tank and drove it 21 miles to get to the CHP office and 21 miles back home. The point is that by the time I got home, the gauge read 1/2 full. I also noticed that it ran hot to where I can feel the heat, <--- is that normal?


They do run quite hot, yes - big engines put out lots of heat.

What was your temperature gauge showing at the beginning and end of your trip?

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Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:20 pm

Dulok wrote:Also I observed that the speed gauge doesn't work either and does not show the speed of bike or the amount of mikes traveled, any suggestions?


It could be the speedometer cable - unscrew it from the back of the speedometer, put the bike on the center stand, then rotate the front wheel and see if the middle of the cable turns with the wheel.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:32 pm

Well then the temperature is good, it stayed in the middle of the operating range.

As far as for the cable for the speed gauge, it does not have one. There is a hole in the back of the gauge where I believe it should of been connected and there is not a wire dangle anywhere near the gauge or tire.

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Postby thrasherg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:46 pm

Have you checked that you have the small gearbox on the front wheel (where the other end of the speedo cable would have connected)? If yes, then it sounds like you just need to purchase a new cable (given the age of your bike, it might be easier said than done!!). I suspect the gear drive will be on the wheel otherwise the front wheel would not be spaced correctly, but it pays to check and not assume!! :)

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:56 pm

Yeah I just checked and the cable snapped off, maybe from a previous owner, but the cable is definitely missing. I'll shop around, maybe I'll be lucky and find one somewhere. Thank you guys for all of your assistance. I one day hope to be as knowledgeable as all of you.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:36 pm

I was able to find the speedometer cable at www.cyber-cycles.com and at another website that stated I had to have a minimum of $20 order and the cable was less than that.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby omw41 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:12 pm

Don't trust the gas gauge and don't worry about it. Fill the bike up. Go out and ride it. When it runs out of gas hit the reserve. Keep track by your mileage and not the gas gauge. They are tempermental and inaccurate. I have a full vetter package (minus the trunk) on mine and I get around 150 miles out of a tankful and that is combination highway and city and combinaation of wife on/not on the back.

I'm sure people told you to SeaFoam the bike.

I'm sure people told you to do the timing belts. If the bike has been sitting and laying up, I would do them no matter what the mileage; call me paranoid.

Do a good flush and fill of your coolant system before you judge the temp issues. My bike runs pretty cool even after 1hr of continuous highway running. Somewhere right about in the middle is where mine stays once it has been running for awhile.

I only wish I had a GL 1000 for my first bike. Mine was a 76 cb 500T.

Congratulations on a brilliant choice!
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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby omw41 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:17 pm

OK. I forgot your speedo was not working. However, once you get that resolved, don't trust the gas gauge.
I just love the feeling when I have to hit reserve.
I look down and see 100 plus miles added to the speedo.
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Postby WingAdmin » Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:19 pm

Make sure to test out the reserve setting close to home before trusting it out far away! It seldom gets used, and can get clogged with sediment etc....and you will find out the hard way, when you switch to reserve and your engine dies. :)

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Postby omw41 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:01 pm

Good point, but if you do the kind of riding I do out here in Virginia you are bound to hit some stretches where it will be used. Sometimes I forget how good I have it.

In any case, in every bike I have ever had. I make sure I run it down to reserve every once in a while just to prevent what you have mentioned. :idea:

I hope I helped.
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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:25 pm

I've only heard or read of using seafoam but not how or where and they do not sell any at my local auto parts store and I really don't want to order online. Where is the coolant drain plug located amd what type of coolant should I use?

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby Dulok » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:35 pm

Also how do I clean out the tank?

Thanks, I wanted to get a Harley (only because my sister's boyfriend is president of a biker club out here and everyone talks about Harley's) but so far, despite the issues that came with the bike; which I'm glad they're not severe, I am glad that I got a GL1000. I plan on keeping it for a very long time. Everyone has been helpful and have not been told that my questions are a nuisance.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby omw41 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:34 pm

For what it is worth, I just saw Peter Fonda (Captain America-Easy Rider) on tv and he was in Sturgis. He said, "People think you have to have a Harley to come here. That's snob stuff. If you have a bike you are welcome."

When people say to me, "I won't ride anything but a Harley." I ask them, "Where is your bike?" 9 out of 10 times they don't even have one. Real bikers respect other bikes.

If they have a Pep Boys, or Auto Zone or just about any chain like that (even Wal-Mart) you can get seafoam. Read the can carefully. Make sure you get the fuel treatment. It started as a product for outboard motors. People have a zillion different ways to use it, but the way I do it is when I'm almost on empty, I dump half the bottle in my gastank, and then fill it up. Next fillup I do the same thing. I know I am going to catch hell for this, but I suggest you run premium fuel in your bike. With the Seafoam,you might see some white smoke at start up for awhile. Don't worry about it. That's the stuff cleaning out the gunk.

If you are looking at the bike from front to back, the drain plug is just under the radiator hose that is opposite the oil filter. But first, do what I have written below.

1.Unlock and open up the top compartment. That's the glovebox like thing in the center of the bike. Remove the tool tray.

2. Take off the right side false tank cover.

3. Check the level in the reserve tank. Eyeball the quality of the coolant. If it's rusty or ful of gunk, change it. Make sure the engine is running and up to normal temp. The level on the reserve tank should be between the "Full" and "Low" lines. If it is low unscrew the reserve coolant tank cap, add coolant and bring it up to the "full" line.

4. If the reserve tank is empty, stop the engine, unscrew both the reserve tank cap and the radiator cap and fill them both.

To flush it out, Repeat steps 1-3.

Then:
A. Pull the siphon tube out of the reserve tank
B. Take the radiator cap off. Of course don't do this stuff when the motor is hot, right?
C. Put a container umder the engine and remove the coolant drain plug.
D. Remove the reserve tank. Take it out and rinse it off and clean it with the hose. Put the reserve tank back in.
E. Fill the rad with a flushing compound designed for use in aluminum block engines. Install the rad cap. Run the motor for ten minutes, then drain, then repeat steps A-D.

E. Fill the rad with plain or distilled water. Run the engine then drain repeating steps A-D.

F. Fill the rad with 50/50 ethylene glycol antifreeze. When you go to Wal-Mart just look for that kind of anti-freeze. Fill it up and run the motor with the rad cap off until the coolant level stablizes. Add more coolant as needed. Once it's full, cap it off.

G. Fill the reserve tank with the engine running at normal operating temperature. The level should be between the "Full and "Low" line. Let it run for awhile.

H. Check for leaks.

I have two final pieces of advice. Like all advice, you are free to take it or not. The first is buy a manual. The GL 1000 shop manual 75-79 published by American Honda Motor Co. INC. is a great reference material. The second piece of advice is to ride the bike. If you can't do it everyday, start it at least once a week and bring it up to temp. These old wings do not like to sit.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby omw41 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:43 pm

I just realized that there is a great write up on flushing your system (with pictures) in the GL 1100 DIY Section of this website. I forgot about it. You should look there first for DIY stuff. Read them all. Check them off one by one.

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Re: I'm a new to the biker world and bought a '79 GL1000

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:11 am

Dulok wrote:I've only heard or read of using seafoam but not how or where and they do not sell any at my local auto parts store and I really don't want to order online. Where is the coolant drain plug located amd what type of coolant should I use?


Seafoam can be bought at pretty well any auto store - Autozone, NAPA, even Wal-Mart sells it.

Have a look at How to flush your cooling system - it has all the information you'll need on coolant.




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