Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade


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Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby micbery » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:11 am



I had the opportunity to change out my front tire this weekend and while the front end was apart I did a brake job as well. All in all the project went pretty well. These How to Articles are the cats meow! Thank you so much for them. A couple questions would help me wrap it up.

1/ Although the speedo was operating prior to tear down. However taking the hub apart and after cleaning it up, I noticed the inner guts were in pretty rough shape. A piece had actually fallen into my hand. It doesnt look fixable, is there a rebuild kit available?

2/ After the brake job was complete I wanted to bleed the lines and am having a bit of trouble. It seems the one side bleed very well, (brake lever side). However the other side seems not to want to come. I have pumped it what seems like a million times and all I get is air and modest splatter. The brake lever will not stiffen up? There are no leaks, the tub is full of brake fluid always.

Any of your know how would be appreciated ... thanks all for being here.



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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:27 am

"I noticed the inner guts were in pretty rough shape. A piece had actually fallen into my hand. It doesnt look fixable
Can you post a pix? I've fixed these before.
"I have pumped it what seems like a million times and all I get is air and modest splatter. The brake lever will not stiffen up? There are no leaks, the tub is full of brake fluid always."
Brake lever= left caliper
brake pedal=right caliper.
When all else fails.use a mighty vac.
Brake lever and pedal that won't firm is usually related to air still in the system

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby micbery » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:32 am

I never took a pic. What I did was repacked it with grease and put things back together. Interesting the vac suggestion for the bleeding the brakes. I have never used one, are they cheap enough to purchase?

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby seabee_ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:18 am

Check Harbor Freight Tools online fo the mighty vac brake bleader. About $30 US. Guess it depends on shipping costs whether it's cheaper to buy at local parts store. It's a good tool to have when bleedig brakes and clutch.
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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:17 am

I believe Canadian Tire sells them as well.

If you still bleed the front and can't get the pedal to firm up, try bleeding the rear as well. It's always possible some air migrated back there and is causing you grief.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:48 am

The last spedo unit I repaired,I found that the little ears were not touching the wheel drive .I cut new ones and bent them to match the wheel.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby micbery » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:52 pm

Regarding the speedo - yes this is exactly the cause. It looks like wear "to those ears" has left them not making contact. You say you can build up those ears ... impressive! Any photos on this or how too`s?

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:48 pm

No pix.This was done over a year ago.I used a welder to build up a new tab and then filed it to fit the wheel.If that can't be done,a "new" on can be cut from a fender washer.Or if this one is the same as yours I'll mail it to you.This one came from a 81.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby micbery » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:59 pm

Wow .. you are so talented, good job. The earlier models 81 -82 seems to be like the picture. Mine an 83 is made a little different. On the hub side a ring with two ears are a metal type and on the speedo side Its like a hard plastic. Those two ears are whats worn, as one fell off into my hand while cleaning it out. I was not sure how to build up those ears so I crazyglued the piece back into place and repacked it with grease. Hoping it might have held, but not so.

I quite like the older model style over this style as the latter seems far more durable.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:26 am

Did the plastic break or the metal tab on the coupler ring ??
Your right about the part being different the rim is different too.Considering the metal broke off,I doubt that glue,of any type will hold either.
I have never seen a replacement for this,it's usually "replace the whole thing"with another used worn out unit and hope it lasts. :(
If you or somebody you know can't make a new tab for you with a little spot welding,mail it to me and I'll do it.You may need to file a little for the perfect fit as I won't have the wheel to match it to.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL1100A Aspencade

Postby micbery » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:58 am

Yes .. it was the plastic side that a piece broke off in my hand. Those metal ears could be worn, but it didnt seem so. From what I could see the plastic unit side is not replaceable. Now I have talked to honda ... they want me to replace the whole unit $125.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:31 am

Ouch.You could post a "I need one of these" on this site.Somebody may have a extra.Then there's always Steal-bay.

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Re: Front Brakes - 83 GoldWing GL110A Aspencade

Postby patbrandon1 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:34 pm

micbery wrote:I never took a pic. What I did was repacked it with grease and put things back together. Interesting the vac suggestion for the bleeding the brakes. I have never used one, are they cheap enough to purchase?


I own an '82 Goldwing 1100, and can't help with the speedometer, but I have experience with the brakes. I did a rebuild in the front right caliper. And wouldn't get any firmness on my brake handle. These hydraulic systems on the brakes are so small that the tiniest bit of air will make them not firm up. I was going to get a Mity Vac, but I am cheap when it comes to buying stuff I could make myself. I had bought a cheap gas siphon for my rototiller, and just for grins I checked the hose on it to see if it would fit on the bleeder. It was a perfect fit. So I squeezed the thing about 20 times and started to feel some pressure in the siphon. About 10 more squeezes and I closed the bleeder. I never got brake fluid totally all the way out the siphon, but I figured I didn't need that much. It was a pretty long hose. I pulled on the brake lever several times and began to feel pressure. I was then able to bleed the brakes normally. So for me, a cheap siphon worked, and I didn't have to pay $30 to $50 for a Mity-Vac. And since have done a brake job on my '81 Honda CM 400c and used it for that bleeding process as well. Good luck. Here is a photo of the cheap siphon that I used.
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This worked to get the air out of my brake lines on my 1982 GL 1100i
This worked to get the air out of my brake lines on my 1982 GL 1100i




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