lifters ticking 83 GL1100A


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lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby 1988jeep » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:25 am



i just bought a 83 goldwing GL 1100A a month ago took carbs off cleaned them real good took 5 times before motor ran right then it really ran great concidering it had sat up over A year before i got it then the next day i started the bike and heard the lifters ticking wondering what I should do I was told to pour some cfoam in the gas and cranke case how much and how long should i let it run like that also heard to put some maricle oil in crank case what would you do


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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby D2D » Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:53 am

Check your oil level and be sure it's at the right level. You don't say what it is you did to the motor other than "it took 5 times before the motor ran right" , so I have no clue as to what service you performed.

Here's how to check and adjust your valves to be sure the clearances are right.


Engine must be Stone-Cold . . . that's overnight-cold.

1. Remove the valve covers by loosening the four 10-mm bolts evenly and in a diagonal pattern. This helps to avoid distorting the covers.

Orient yourself to the piston numbers. The first time on an unfamiliar engine it's good practice to make numbered masking tape labels and stick them near the set of valves for each cylinder.

2. Remove the spark plugs. Remove the timing mark cover and rotor bolt cover.

3. Place a 12-mm offset-box-end wrench on the rotor bolt. Rotate the engine clockwise until the intake valve on #1 cylinder opens and closes. Pull up only! You do not want to loosen that rotor bolt. #1 Intake is the upper valve on the right front cylinder.

4. Continue rotating until the flywheel's T-1 mark is aligned with the index marks on the case. #1 is now at TDC (top dead center).

5. Check the clearance on the following valves by running the correct size feeler gauge between the valve stem head and the adjusting screw.

#1 Intake - - .004" (.1 mm) - - - right front, top
#1 Exhaust - .005" (.13 mm) - - right front, bottom
#3 Exhaust - .005" (.13 mm) - - right rear, bottom
#4 Intake - - .004" (.1 mm) - - - left rear, top

6. If the gap on a valve is incorrect, loosen the nut with a 10-mm box wrench and screw the adjuster in or out with your screwdriver. Use a light touch here and don't push in on the screwdriver. Turn the screw in until the feeler gauge won't move, then back off slowly until it just starts to move. You want just a little resistance to movement here. When it's correct, the next size larger gauge will not easily slide in and the next one smaller will be sloppy-loose.

7. When the adjustment is correct, tighten the nut while holding the adjustment screw in position with the screwdriver.

8. Torque the locknuts to 9-12 lb.ft. (1.2-1.6 kgf m) and re-check the clearance on #1 intake and exhaust, #3 exhaust and #4 intake. Adjust any that are incorrect.

9. Rotate the engine 360° clockwise until the T-1 mark is again lined up the the index marks. #2 piston is now at TDC. Check and adjust the clearance on the following valves as you did in Steps 6 & 7.

#2 Intake - - .004" (.1 mm) - - - left front, top
#2 Exhaust - .005" (.13 mm) - - left front, bottom
#4 Exhaust - .005" (.13 mm) - - left rear, bottom
#3 Intake - - .004" (.1 mm) - - - right rear, top

10. Torque the locknuts to 9-12 lb.ft. (1.2-1.6 kgf m) and then re-check the clearance on #2 intake and exhaust, #4 exhaust and #3 intake. Adjust any that are incorrect.

11. An additional check should be done at this time as described in Steps 12 -15.

12. Rotate the engine 360° clockwise. #1 intake will open and close. Align T-1 to the index marks. #1 is now at TDC. Check #1's intake and exhaust valve clearance and re-adjust if needed.

13. Rotate the engine 180° and align the T-2 mark. #3 is now at TDC. Check/adjust valve clearance on #3.

14. Rotate the engine 180° and align the T-1 mark. #2 is now at TDC. Check/adjust valve clearance on #2.

15. Rotate the engine 180° and align the T-2 mark. #4 is now at TDC. Check/adjust valve clearance on #4.

16. Inspect, clean/replace gaskets and refit the valve covers. Torque the 10-mm bolts to 6-9 lb.ft. (.8-1.2 kgf m) evenly and in a diagonal pattern.

17. Inspect, clean/replace O-rings and refit the timing mark cover and rotor cover. Do not overtighten!

18. Go for a ride and enjoy the weather.

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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:10 am

Do keep in mind..The 83 does not use hydraulic lifters for zero lash.
My 1200 has almost no lifter noise but all 4 of the mechanical ones do have a little ticking.It's normal.
Now if it's clattering pretty loud,set the valves "by-the book"as suggested.
One other note.
My 83 also has a ticking,however it only comes from the right side.After changing the cam and rockers,I found that the noise comes from the fuel pump.It rides on a eccentric lobe and it's getting a bit sloppy.

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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:31 am

Check out How to adjust your valve clearances for a full tutorial on adjusting your valves. They need to be adjusted periodically as a maintenance item.

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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby 1988jeep » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:38 am

sorry I cleaned the carbs four or five times before I ever started the bike the first time it ran great no noise what so ever it set up day and a half before I started it again didnt rev it or anything just let it run this is when I heard the ticking like lifters and it seems like it is on right side friend said it could be trash in the lifters cause this bike did sit for over a year before i got it the things your talking about are out of my league but sounds like you know what your talking about I was told to put sea foam in crank case and gas tank run it the change the oil and see if that fixes the problem what do you think thanks for the help too new to street bikes so ready to learn
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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby D2D » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:09 am

Seafoam may/may not help you get rid of the noise. Adding it to your oil and driving about 50 miles very gently will help break down and remove any gunk you have in the crank case from the bike sitting and help make things run a lot smoother. Same with adding some to your gas tank, keeps the varnish from building up from the additives in today's gas and will help keep those carb passages clear and needle valves from sticking.

As for the noise, I'd pull the valve cover from that side and check your clearances following the instructions above. It isn't hard and may save you from doing damage by running the bike. I'd also check to be sure that the timing is set right.

How old are your timing belts, did you replace them? You may have one that's stretched out and starting to go.

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Re: lifters ticking 83 GL1100A

Postby 1988jeep » Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:51 am

thanks for all the tips I will get me friend to check that stuff he knows what his doing more then I just dont under stand runs great for 2 days then next time I start it I hear this baffles me but want to do the right thing I got a great fined with this bike thanks again everyone and a good and safe ride


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