Rear axle seized?


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Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:08 pm



I need to relace the rear tire on my gl1100 interstate. I got the the bags, fender, light bar, shocks off okay. When I try to remove the axle, it moved out of the swing arm a little, then refuses to move anymore. The wheel shifts left with axle & the swing arm & then stops. The axle slides back & forth thru the swing arm. It rotates okay. The wheel is locked so it's rotating within the wheel, brake frame, etc. It just refues to come out. Nothing externally is rotating when you spin the axle, so is something internally holding it up? Spayed Brake-free, but no use yet. Thought of a little gas wrench heat, but have yet to try it.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby D2D » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:30 pm

Did you remove the bolts for the brake caliper and tap it off the brake disc so the wheel can go all the way to the left? Is the axel bolt hitting your left muffler or some other obstruction?

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:41 pm

Yup. Removed the calipher. The axle is sliding in/out of the final drive. It's sliding in/out of the left swing arm. Just not through the brake mounting frame, or the piece between the brake mount frame & the wheel; looks like a spacer, or bushing of somekind. The spacer doesn't spin with the axle.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:46 pm

It seems to be acting like the axle is frozen to a wheel bearing.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:36 pm

It does sound like that's your problem. Assuming it is, first off, order a new set of rear wheel bearings, as it sounds like you're going to be needing them.

Then get a big sledge and let 'er rip. :)

My only worry would be damage to the hub, but even if the bearing was welded to the axle, it should still come out of the hub cleanly. Either the axle will give way, the bearing will come out of the hub, or the bearing itself will fail.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:18 pm

Whatever's hung up, it can't fit through the brake mount, so the axle will have to pass through, break free, the obsruction some how. I have been hitting it, but no luck as yet. I was thinking that maybe strapping the wheel to the drive shaft to limit the left to right flex, & bounce when hitting, but can't see an easy way. Too many things couls bend under hte strap.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby D2D » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:10 pm

Soak it down with PB Blaster or some other good release product and let it sit for 24 hours. Then resume your tapping with that big hammer, giving it a good spray as you attempt to get the axle to move. If you didn't remove that right shock, you could strap the wheel rim to it to prevent the wheel from moving while you strike.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:42 am

Make sure you put a piece of 2x4 as a brace in between the left swingarm and the frame before whacking that axle. Hitting the axle and exerting sideways force on the swingarm can damage the swingarm pivot bearings.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:45 pm

I'm at a stop now. I had a 12" metal rod cut & cupped at one end to cradle the axle. Now I can hit it good & hard. Now not only can't I stop the tire from swinging left, but the whole bike does also. I have no place to tie the whole thing down, or to.

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby D2D » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:30 pm

Have you tried to knock it back the other way to stop, sand or steel wool the shaft and apply a good coating of grease to see if it is a bit of corrosion holding it from going all the way through?

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Re: Rear axle seized?

Postby norseman47 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:20 pm

Not having been a ground pounder, I couldn't think of a way to tie down the bike. But, having gone through navy damage control, I remembered how to shore up damaged bulkheads. So, I bought a 4x4x10 & braced the rear wheel against the bottom of a garage wall. The axle is now moving, though very slowly, but moving. The cotter pin holes are at the final drive. I now need to go buy a 3/4 inch, grade 5, or 8, bolt long enough to drive the axle all the way through the drive & hub. New bearings are already on their way.




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