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loudcamaro79
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lacking charging

Postby loudcamaro79 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:49 pm



my 82 gl1100 does run but it dont like to stay running by itself, i can hook jumpers to it and it runs like a brand new bike, but when i take the jumper cables off, it shuts down, are there any special thing that i can do? aaah yeah i have changed the stator, but didnt changed the regulator. what can i do? thanks bro's....



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Re: lacking charging

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:52 pm

Have you checked the master (dogbone) fuse? It can crack invisibly, so it looks fine, but is actually failed.

Have a look at this post, it has a couple pictures of what you're to look for. The dogbone fuse is held in place with two screw terminals, and the fuse screws into place as you can see.

Then have a look at this post, where you can see the replacement I used. I took a couple large spade lug terminals and crimped them onto the ends of the wire coming out of the blade fuse holder. I then just screwed the two terminals in place of the dogbone fuse.

Even if that's not your problem, it's a good thing to do anyway. If that doesn't solve your problem, you need to get a multimeter out and start tracing to see where you have power and where you don't. Start with the fuse and let us know how you get on.

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Re: lacking charging

Postby scotterichmond » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:25 pm

It won't hurt to check that fuse, but because it starts and runs ( albeit with jumper) the fuse will be fine, I suspect the stator connector is at fault. try pulling it apart and look at it. then cut it out and soldier and heat shrink the wires together. it is the connector just in front of the battery and has 3 yellow wires. it does not matter which you connect.

test the stator before you reconnect the wire. each pair should have continuity and no wire should go to ground.
the Honda manual explains it very well.
do you have one?
this is for the GL1000 but they are the same for this test.here you go:
http://goldwingdocs.com/Docs/Honda%20Go ... -5D280.pdf

starting on pg. 18-7

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Re: lacking charging

Postby loudcamaro79 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:31 am

well actually i have bought a after market one, it has a door in it and it made out of rubber. it closes inside like a closet. so do you still think that new dogbone is messed up? i almost forgot. this one has a regular fuse, not a dogbone type.
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Re: lacking charging

Postby loudcamaro79 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:41 am

you dont think is my ground cable from the battery do you? can that be the problem?

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Re: lacking charging

Postby scotterichmond » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:10 am

Make sure you have good connections a on all wires , but I would still recomend the "fix" for the stator connector.

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Re: lacking charging

Postby dingdong » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:27 am

Hummm? Hook up jumper cables runs fine. Disconnect jumper cables doesn't run. Well I would think you have a battery or a battery cable problem.
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Re: lacking charging

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:11 am

dingdong wrote:Hummm? Hook up jumper cables runs fine. Disconnect jumper cables doesn't run. Well I would think you have a battery or a battery cable problem.


Yup....the battery volts is very low,thus the "boost" to keep it running.
The underlying problem is that the charging system may not providing enough power to run the bike (10 amp) and charge the battery too.
Even if 1 stator wire has a bad connection,you can loose enough power to stop charging.
Yes the stator wires need to be soldered
AND at least look at the plug on the regulator.They can also corrode.

Or the battery has a bad cell and is drawing all the available power and leaving very little to run the bike.A low voltage problem.
Soldering all the wires and adding a ignition switching relay positivly cured all my voltage and charging problems on all my bikes that have the same system.viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12522




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