GL1100 leaning too far on side stand


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GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby t-bar12 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:52 am



I have a 1982 GL1100C. When I put it on the side stand, it leans VERY far to the left.

I have removed the kickstand to check if it was bent (it was and I straightened it), I tightened the bolts, and did everything I could think of. But the bike is still leaning too far to the left.

Any ideas? (I am afraid it is going to go down, if I park it on soft ground and it tips any further. It is very hard to get it on the centre stand, too.)

Thanks for any help or suggestions you can give!
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby Possum51 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:55 am

Sounds like at some point someone forgot to put the kickstand up and when it bent, it may have also bent the tab that the stand mounts to on the frame. Thats what I'd look at next.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby dingdong » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:33 am

Check the frame for excessive rust.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby t-bar12 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:44 am

I checked for rust some time ago; that was one of my first thoughts. But no problem there.

Per the first reply I had, the side stand does stick out a bit from the frame - so it does sound likely that the piece where the stand is mounted might be bent. Will check that next.

Thanks much!
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby bcassel » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:02 am

I have the other problem, my 1100I doesn't seem to lean far enough. If I park on a crowned street, it stands straight up and I worry about it falling over the the right.

Any ideas?

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby scotterichmond » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:20 pm

Just food for thought, the amount of air in the suspension (ie shock height ) will make a big difference, ( does on mine) are the rear shocks the standard ones?

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby t-bar12 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:23 pm

bcassel wrote:I have the other problem, my 1100I doesn't seem to lean far enough. If I park on a crowned street, it stands straight up and I worry about it falling over the the right.

Any ideas?



There is another discussion going on a few other people who had the problem of the bike not leaning enough. I found it before I started this discussion. Just searching for "side stand leaning" and I think it will show up.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby t-bar12 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:25 pm

scotterichmond wrote:Just food for thought, the amount of air in the suspension (ie shock height ) will make a big difference, ( does on mine) are the rear shocks the standard ones?


I wondered about the air suspension, too. I will try to adjust that, and see if it helps. (I don't know if they are standard shocks or not, but I think so.)

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:56 pm

When I first got my GL1100, it sat so far up on the side stand, I really worried about it falling over in a gust of wind. When I replaced the rear shocks with Progressives, that problem was solved - the bike leaned over just right then. The old springs were so tired, the sag caused the bike to sit upright on the side stand.

It's possible you have oversized shocks, or rear shocks that are pumped up quite high with air.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby thrasherg » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:18 pm

The thing that doesn't jive here, if it leans a lot on the side stand, then the bike might be high (longer rear shock, stiffer spring, too much air pressure, etc) but then that should make it very easy to get on the center stand. If the bike is low then it won't lean much but it will be hard to get on the center stand (You have to lift it up more). T-Bar12 says that the bike leans too far and is hard to get on the center stand, these 2 problems don't usually occur together!! I suspect the frame mount might be bent causing the bike to lean too far, as I cannot believe it is too high and still difficult to get on the center stand.. Just my guess, if you can post a picture of your side stand mount, we might be able to compare it with other wings and see if it is at a different angle to stock.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby t-bar12 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:23 am

thrasherg wrote:The thing that doesn't jive here, if it leans a lot on the side stand, then the bike might be high (longer rear shock, stiffer spring, too much air pressure, etc) but then that should make it very easy to get on the center stand. If the bike is low then it won't lean much but it will be hard to get on the center stand (You have to lift it up more). T-Bar12 says that the bike leans too far and is hard to get on the center stand, these 2 problems don't usually occur together!! I suspect the frame mount might be bent causing the bike to lean too far, as I cannot believe it is too high and still difficult to get on the center stand.. Just my guess, if you can post a picture of your side stand mount, we might be able to compare it with other wings and see if it is at a different angle to stock.

Gary


The two issues (leaning too far on side stand & hard to get on centre stand) are separate. 1) The centre stand issue is a slightly bent or misshapen "foot" on the centre stand - so it does not pivot onto the centre stand position easily, especially with the extra weight of fairings, panniers, etc. 2) The side stand appears to result from either a bent mount on the frame, into which the side stand is bolted, or too much air in the suspension. I will check both of those when I have time. If I don't find a solution with local mates here, I will post a picture later. Cheers, Tom

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby squirrel » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:39 am

l purchaced this bike from t bar. replaced the side stand frame mount ( 4 bolts) problem solved excellent machine by the way

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby s_lapid » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:13 pm

no doubt that to identify and the problem and fixing it is best, but if the cause is more complicated than only adjusting air pressure in the shocks , like a bent frame pipe etc. there is a solution that I recently saw on a bike: the guy welded an iron oval shoe to the head of a 1/2 (or was it 5/8 ? not sure ) bolt, drilled a hole in the bottom end of the side stand ,and with 2 nuts he can now adjust the height of the stand as he wishes. he said that before that , he could hardly lift the bike , so low it leaned to the left ..
maybe it's not the best looking solution, but it seems to do the job..

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:10 pm

Perhapes your "center bar" that the stand rests on is craped out?Rusted out? fatigued out? There is an article online on how to replace/reweld this particular problem.Someone should have seen this 12 posts ago.Regards, Johnyy

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby BigDee » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:18 am

Just a side thought: the PPO (previous previous owner) had a kickstand mounted on the off side, so I can park on a slope either way. Just one of those simple fixes... The original one works well but it's nice to have the options.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby Choppir » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:42 pm

Been reading about the kickstand leaning too far, mine does this also but my concern and problem is this. I try to put the kickstand up and it won't retract properly it is hitting the chrome bar where the footboard and shifter if. Each time I turn left of course you know what is happening, yea scrapping and dragging not good. Any solutions? Please

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby squirrel » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:38 am

it could be the same problem i had with the side stand rail .or the spring+ bolt on the stand itself . im sure someone on here will be able to help more

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:45 am

Check the frame where the sidestand mounts, to make sure it isn't corroded/failing.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby Choppir » Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:02 pm

In fact I noticed corrosion some time ago and did some work in that area grinding out the area and filling with liquid steel and 2 stainless steel clamps I guess I must of misplaced the alignment of the kickstand guess I will have to take a better look and see what I need to do to get it to clear the bracket which supports the floorboard. Thanks you guys rock.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby tumunga » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:49 pm

bcassel wrote:I have the other problem, my 1100I doesn't seem to lean far enough. If I park on a crowned street, it stands straight up and I worry about it falling over the the right.

Any ideas?


From what I remember of mine, yep, it's gonna look like that. Turn the handlebars, I think to the left, and it will lean a little bit farther.
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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby mytown » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:50 am

I'm not sure how the GL1100 side stand is set up but I had this problem with a GL500 that had 50,000 miles:

Laid the bike on its side and built up a weld as best as I could:

Ground it smooth with an angle grinder:

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand

Postby Choppir » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:54 pm

Yes that was the problem I didn't put it back in proper position when I put the clamps on, I tried to bend it to where it would clear the floorboard bracket but broke the repair I had made so I do need it welded now then I should be good to go. Thanks guys.

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Re: GL1100 leaning too far on side stand updated 3/11/2015

Postby ram11397 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Hi,
I know old thread,
but i have same problem checked side stand seems straight to me, bolted together correctly but the bracket that it bolted on to seems to stick way father out from frame than some pictures i seen on here can it be bent back some how?

Rick

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