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starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:44 pm



Working on a 1980 gl1100 had starter rebuilt, when I put it back the solenoid just clicks. it wont jump across posts or start with power strait to starter. It will push start, but I am having trouble parking on hills. Any help is greatly appreciated.



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Re: starter problems

Postby portugeezer » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:06 pm

Take out the left side plugs to see if your cylinders are full of gasoline. Could be the right side too.

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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:01 pm

Thanks I will check that, but would it do that if I can push start the bike?

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Re: starter problems

Postby RoadRogue » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:06 pm

did you bench test the starter before you put it in? Did it ever turn the engine over after the rebuild?How many volts do you get at the starter when you hit the button? Make sure all cables are clean and tight 8-)
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Re: starter problems

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:36 pm

Push start=a good engine
A Clicking relay however does not guarantee that electric is actually getting through it.
Test probe the actual post on the starter,does it have volts when you push the start button?

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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:57 pm

starter bench tested good and has good voltage at lug coming out of starter. solenoid has good voltage on bat side and then on starter side when starter button is pushed.
Could rebuilt starter spin on bench then not on bike. Also I tried new battery and jump starting direct to starter.

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Re: starter problems

Postby virgilmobile » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:22 pm

If the lug on the starter was turned,even a 1/8 turn,it can break the wire that is bonded to it.
Having a "no load" mechanical connection may still get enough power to spin the starter.
If you can roll the engine over but not crank it and the starter has volts.....pull it off and look it over.
You MUST use a wrench on the nut next to the starter as you loosen the cable nut.

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Re: starter problems

Postby dingdong » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:57 am

virgilmobile wrote:If the lug on the starter was turned,even a 1/8 turn,it can break the wire that is bonded to it.
Having a "no load" mechanical connection may still get enough power to spin the starter.
If you can roll the engine over but not crank it and the starter has volts.....pull it off and look it over.
You MUST use a wrench on the nut next to the starter as you loosen the cable nut.


Ditto. Biggest mistake folks make when servicing the starter. You problem has to be in the starter.
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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:59 am

thanks guys you have been a great help! I will try a new starter.

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Re: starter problems

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:22 am

At least pull the gear head off yours and look at the stud....even if it's just to confirm what we suspect.It should look like this....

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Re: starter problems

Postby tom84std » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:08 am

Jmulinax's problem has to be typical on a machine this age, but I've had exactly the opposite experiance. When I bought my '79 1000 twelve years ago I assumed the starter would need normal servicing so I ordered a brush kit and took it off the engine. With 30,000 miles I discected the starter only to find it clean and pristine with about 90% brush life left. The grease was somewhat dried out in the planetary gearhead. I washed everything, dried it all and refilled the gearhead. Lubed everything that moves and polished the commutator, reassembled the unit and installed it. Gave the new kit to one of the guys who needed it and put another 40,000 miles on the bike. I've rebuilt starters on automobiles, tractors, large trucks and lawnmowers but I've never seen any starter with as many years and miles in such good shape. It has to be a good indicator as to the quality built into the machine straight from the factory. I've had my '84 now for only two years and the starter spins and starts the engine perfectly. Now I'm torn between yanking it and doing a good servicing to it or leaving it there until I have any indication of a possible problem. Tom

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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:30 am

Thanks guys, rebuilt starter will not = good starter. Installed new starter last night and rode to work this morning .

thanks again for all the help.

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Re: starter problems

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:44 pm

What in good God's creation do you have on the back of that bike sir???? :lol: Looks like you are ready to travel man....I bet it pops a wheely pretty easy... :lol: No need for a trailer.. ha ha :lol: I bet them there bags are full too :shock:

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Re: starter problems

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:00 pm

littlebeaver wrote:What in good God's creation do you have on the back of that bike sir???? :lol: Looks like you are ready to travel man....I bet it pops a wheely pretty easy... :lol: No need for a trailer.. ha ha :lol: I bet them there bags are full too :shock:


I'm surprised he's not riding down the road on one wheel with all that hanging off the back! :)

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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:15 pm

Hey be nice:) Those back packs weren't that heavy. We were on a boy scout trip at Latimer scout reservation. It was a great ride near Fall Creek Falls Tn.

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Re: starter problems

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:31 pm

Looks kinda neat, we wuz justa funning ya.... :lol:

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Re: starter problems

Postby jmullinax » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:45 pm

Thats ok we got some looks going down the road. :D




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