Intermittent signals


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Intermittent signals

Postby portugeezer » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:10 pm



I just parked both of my wings for winter. The tanks are full of gas treated with seafoam and they are in the garage with battery maintainers. So time to get after some winter stuff! The 83 Aspencade has self cancelling signals. I will be riding and go to make a turn but my signal does not come on. I will signal with my arm. Ride like that for a few miles and viola the signals work again. Is this something common? How do you fix it if it is? Thanks!



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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby Chauncey » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:55 pm

my 83 Aspy does the same thing, The auto cancel will still work just not the lights. I was going to tear into it this winter to look for loose connections somewhere or a bad flasher module. Trouble is it probably won't fail when I get it tore down to see where I lose voltage.

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:53 pm

I'll look into the schematic.
If I can ask...how do you know the self canceler is working if the lights don't?
Do you feel the release solenoid activate in the left control?
Oh,and can I guess that none of the turn signal lamps don't work including the dash indicator?

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby thrasherg » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:38 pm

I don't have any first hand experience, but I would start by cleaning the switch on the left hand handlebar for the indicators. It's switching quite a lot of current (4+ amps) and gets dirt & water in there when the bike is ridden. Given the age, it's not unreasonable to expect the contacts to be getting a bit dirty/tired. I would open it up and clean it with a needle file and contact cleaner, and see if that makes a difference, otherwise I would suspect the actual flasher relay has become intermittent, but it has the built in self canceling, so its not easy or cheap to replace!

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby portugeezer » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:35 pm

You know the cancel works because you hear it click off. The worst thing is when it quits at night because the hand signaling doesn't work!

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:36 pm

Clean the contacts. Regards, Johnyy

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby portugeezer » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:52 pm

I will give that a shot but if the switch wasn't calling for the signal to come on how could the cancel function work?

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby goldminerusa » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:38 am

Open the switch housing and spray the switch contacts with electrical switch contact cleaner, ditto the headlite hi/lo toggle. Same for the switch harness connector, the pins get corroded with oxidation/crud.

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby battpack2004 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:55 pm

I had this problem and was on the verge of throwing the flasher unit away and buying a new one. The flasher would only work if you hit it with the back of screwdriver, but that wasn't possible while I was riding. If you want to give a repair a go then try this. You will need a fine tip soldering iron, a fine tooth hacksaw blade and some means of waterproofing after reassembling. The flasher unit can be withdrawn through the top of the dummy tank without having to remove anything.
The flasher unit is encased in an aluminium can or case that has a folded over lip holding the terminal plate (3 spade terminals) Carefully prise back the lip and if you are lucky the whole electronics will pull out of the case, if not you will need to put a very fine cut down the side of the casing to get a bit of movement allowing the withdrawal of the electronics. Once removed you will find a printed circuit board covered in what looks like silicon or hot glue, but due to its age is hard and crumbly, this can be carefully pulled away to reveal the print side of the circuit board.
Look for dry joints on the print side, I found about 4 obvious 'dry joints' but to be sure I resoldered all of the joints on the pcb. Don't worry there aren't that many. I tested the flasher by hooking the unit up to the wing using a towel for insulation and found it worked after my first attempt at the repair.
I used some silicon sealing tape to insulate the inside of pcb during reassembly and around the outside of the case for waterproofing once finished. Job done.
The above repair took about an hour start to finish and the flashers have worked every time since then, which was over 2 years ago.
I hope this helps.

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby florida_ump » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:39 am

Hello, All. So mine is a bit different. My signals work just fine, but when the switch is in "OFF", only one Parking light works; usually the left. I can jiggle the turn signal switch and get them to half way work, but they won't stay working. Any suggestions? I have disassenbled, and cleaned. Maybe I need to clean mor thoroughly.

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Re: Intermittent signals

Postby patbrandon1 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:17 pm

florida_ump wrote:Hello, All. So mine is a bit different. My signals work just fine, but when the switch is in "OFF", only one Parking light works; usually the left. I can jiggle the turn signal switch and get them to half way work, but they won't stay working. Any suggestions? I have disassenbled, and cleaned. Maybe I need to clean mor thoroughly.


Yes Florida, I would say that you have a faulty connection somewhere. And need to clean more thoroughly. I have a great way of stating the obvious. :D If it were me...I would take apart that switch, and clean it very well. I would also make sure all crimps are not corroded where you may not be able to see them. In my experience with electrical trouble shooting, unless there is a faulty switch or somethings broken, 50% of the time, it is a ground problem. Trace all the grounds involved, and make sure there is a CLEAN connection at each. The other 50% of the time, something is loose or dirty. Keep us posted. And welcome to the forum.




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