Starter Clutch Replacement


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Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby chrissvitak » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:21 pm



HI -
I have a 1983 GL1100 Interstate. It has a mere 53,000 on it (mint)

I know that I have a starter clutch issue and it needs to be replaced. What I am curious about is...is there a different / better way to change it out besides pulling the engine? The service manual says that you have to pull it.

It's winter and now is the time to do the work. Thanks

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby RoadRogue » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:38 pm

are you sure you have to change it out? If it has just started to do the spin without grabbing thing since the weather got colder you should run a good dose of seafoam in the oil and run it for an easy 100 miles. Then change the oil and filter. The sprag clutch gets gummed up from oil sludge and or heavey thick oil when it gets colder. During the summer I run 10w40 oil , in the early spring and late fall I run 10w30. 8-)
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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby chrissvitak » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:21 pm

Thanks for the reply.

I do know for a fact that it is the starter clutch. I had some other work done to it several months ago and my mechanic confirmed it. Even in the summer months, there are times all it will do is spin up without grabbing. This does not happen all of the time...maybe 1 out of every 20 starts or so.
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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby RoadRogue » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:57 pm

is possible to need to replace the sprag rollers but before I pulled the motor I would run a half can of seafoam first, I do it to my bikes every year before I park them for the winter, just to loosen up any sludge that may have developed . If it doesnt work then your only out about $8, if it does work and chances are it will then you have no down time. On such a low mileage bike I would be really surprised if you need to replace the rollers yet. good luck 8-)
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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby wingit11 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:31 pm

I have to agree with RoadRogue. Try the SeaFoam first. Nothing to lose and will likely resolve your issue. I have almost 200,000 on my 83 Aspencade, have owned it for 19 years and have never touched the starter clutch. It does sometimes not engage but only in cold weather. I found that a lighter oil in Spring and Fall reduces that problem to next to nothing. Worth the shot.

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:48 pm

It really will astound you just how much sludge comes out when you do a Seafoam treatment, and more likely than not it will fix your problem. Change your oil, add half a can of Seafoam, ride for 50-100 miles, then change the oil again. The first time I did that on my 1100, the oil that came out was grey and full of chunks of black sludge. Astounding.

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby jack97322 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:52 pm

I was about to remove my engine and replace the starter clutch parts, after reading about the Seafoam fix, I decided to try it first. I drained a little oil and filled it to the full level with Seafoam, then rode for 60 miles. When I got back it was as if I had a new starter. It worked for me!

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby Baunix63 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:32 am

Seers,

had the same problems with my Goldie. Ok, I have no seafoam in Bavaria, but a motorcleaner against oil mud in engines.
I made the procedure, cleaner, getting the engine hot, change oil and filter, I do have an new starter, too

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby steve 302 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:56 am

All you guys are awesome. You have done all the leg work if you just dig around on this site. My blue tarp find will get the seafoam treatment in both gas and oil.

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby westgl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 am

Steve,

I have had the same Issue with my 83' GL1100

For starters do NOT use a thicker engine oil, use 10w-40, as 20w50 is TOO thick especially for COLD weather.

I use about 8-12 ounces of ATF in my engine, drain out the 8-12 ozs of oil to make room for the ATF, then put in the ATF in, make sure that the engine is Not over filled.

Note when you add anything Seafoam or ATF to the engine take it easy on the engine, you can ride it normally but dont Push or excessively rev the engine.

Then you MUST RIDE the bike, this is the only way to distribute and Clean all the Crap out of the starter clutch assembly as well as other places.

I like to use ATF better than Seafoam, as ATF is a Really Good Lubricant & cleaner, without any side effects, but it is thinner than motor oil and can penetrate.

I would ride it normally/gentle this way for at least 300 miles. then you can do a Oil & filter (Oil & Filter will be VERY Dirty) change and put in the 10w-40 oil of choice.

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby mfrancis » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:48 pm

is there a limit to the amount of time you leave the Sea Foam in you engine. I mean if I am unable to ride for 100 miles can I just make some trips back and forth to work a couple of days and change the oil on the next weekend? (my drive to work is 22 miles one way and right now I cannot ride for long due to back surgery a few months ago)

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby westgl » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:15 pm

Yes that would be fine,
But I personally would ride it for a little longer than just 100 miles, just take it easy no full throttle while you have a flush in you motor, as seafoam or ATF is thinner than engine oil, and provides less cushion, between metals

Seafoam does not lubricate and does not penetrate like ATF, a Lot of people on here like Seafoam, I have used them both, I prefer ATF.

I bought two motorcycles that had completely frozen motors, One was a 1978' GL1000 this was my Brother in laws bike and a 1983' GL1100 My bike, both had frozen motors, used ATF, and let it sit for a week, I was able to get both motors un-stuck and both bikes run really well.

I have some friends of mine that add ATF every other or every third oil change (depending on how many oil changes you do during riding season) and wait till 200-300miles before the oil change is do then add the ATF or seafoam, run the 200-300miles and you keep the insides of your engine very clean.

I run ATF in my truck's engine oil, and in the gas tank as a top lube, all my motorcycle's in oil and in the gas.

My ford 800 tractor loves a oil flush with ATF it runs really well for a 1953 tractor.

ATF can cure a lot of carb/engine issues.

ATF is MUCH MORE refined the motor oil is.

When you drain your oil after doing an engine flush make a note of how clean or How Filthy Dirty that oil is when you drain it

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby westgl » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:41 pm

Mfrancis

I see you have a 1983' GL1100 that is a Good Bike, I also have a 83' it is one of my favorites, they are nice and smooth, enjoy it, It will last a long time.

I have had every model of Goldwing, I still really like the 83' GL1100, even better then my GL1800 or GL1500, as they are just too Big, and unwieldy, being to big takes the fun out of it.

That 83' was a full dresser but I wanted a lighter & sportier ride.
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This is a picture of My brother in laws bike I did a complete tear down and rebuild,  this is it while I was working on it in my shop
This is a picture of My brother in laws bike I did a complete tear down and rebuild, this is it while I was working on it in my shop
This is my 83' during the tear down & rebuild, it is a very smooth motor.
This is my 83' during the tear down & rebuild, it is a very smooth motor.

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby mfrancis » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:57 am

THanks for letting me kow this I will do as you suggest

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Re: Starter Clutch Replacement

Postby jez.tippett » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:45 pm

Hi Guys, I know this thread has probably been done to death but I just had the same problem with my 82 GL 1100 Aspencade. The starter motor would spin and spin and not engage the chain. She has about 110K km on her. After reading the threads here I dumped all the oil and filled her with ATF. Took the old girl out for a short ride (about 70 miles), being careful not to ride her too hard. Got back and she fired up first time without any problems. Drained the ATF and added new oil and a filter and she is singing like a bird! This is a great work around which I would thoroughly recommend before deciding to pull the engine. Thanks!




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