GL 1100 No spark


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wingsteve
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GL 1100 No spark

Postby wingsteve » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:48 pm



I was wondering if some of you tech savey gl 1100 owners knew a good trace down of why I get spark at the plug on the first spark than none after that.
I checked the ignitors (spark units) as far as the chiltons manual says how to check them, they checked out. Checked the capacitors (pulse generators) and they checked out and checked the rectifier/regulator and did not get the readings the book called for.
So I ordered another regulator/rectifier and am crossing my fingers that will be the problem.
Just will not know until I get the part in my hand and install it.
Just hopin thats it and and wondering what else to check until the part comes.
Did not check out that other "black box" next to the signal flasher, but looking at explanation in book and the book calls that the air suspension control box.
Any help would be much appreciated! :)



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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby trashtruck » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:37 pm

i'm sure that someone with more knowledge than i will be along shortly. the first place to start is the battery. is it fully charged? how old is it? are all the connections good? poor connections or a bad cell in the battery could allow the starter to operate and not have enough juice to fire the coils.
WHAT IS THE SPEED OF DARK?

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby wingsteve » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:11 pm

Just found out what it is. Something to do with the pick up coils, or what the book calls "pulse generators."
Had an extra pair in my spare parts, plugged it into the connection and spun the advance cam and bingo, got real good spark.
Now I have to take the back tire, and swing arm in order to get to the distributor!
Oh what fun, wish there was a way to test those buggers before I installed the engine!!! :(

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:33 am

As long as your battery has sufficient voltage, you can remove the regulator/rectifier entirely and the bike will still run. I doubt that it's your problem - unless the regulator is shot, and your battery is near dead.

Are you saying that when you crank the engine, you see one spark, then it never sparks again?

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:53 am

My 84 had no spark..once in a while..The connector plug next to the battery(4 wire) was badly corroded.
Personally,I'd be looking really close at the 3 connector plugs associated with the ignition and charging system.

You can be fooled into thinking that the pulse coil or regulator was bad by unplugging it and plugging in a new one when in fact you just made a better electrical connection in the plug.

Look for corrosion.If there is ANY,it's best to cut off the plug and solder the wires direct.
This really needs to be done to the stator wires also (3 yellow wires).
Here's a post that I did to fix a intermittent 'no spark' and a poor charging system.viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12522

Some of the plugs have corrosion beyond restoring,including the wires.I had to scrape the black stuff of them to get the solder to stick.

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby wingsteve » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:08 am

Got it fixed guys, and thanks for the input. In my hast of getting the engine in the frame and fired up I did not put the bolt at the end of the shaft that runs the advance that triggers the pickup coils. So it would only spark once when it was first cranking, STUPID me, thats what happens when you get in a hurry!
Fired it up and it started on the first crank, sounds like a beast and am naming it the Harley KILLER.
My brother the Harley guy who used to ride Goldwings does not like that name, I say oh well, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" LOL

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby trashtruck » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:19 am

aren't brain farts fun?
WHAT IS THE SPEED OF DARK?

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:27 am

I hope the little pin is still in the shaft.
It keeps the advance mechanism aligned.

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby wingsteve » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:07 am

The little pin was stuck in the shaft. Thats why I used that shaft instead of the other shaft I have, I could not find the pin for that shaft.
This bike is a frame up restore, or parts left over from another build I did a two years ago.
I got tired of moving boxes of parts around in the shed so I build a beast out of it.
"ITS A LIVE!" :)

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Re: GL 1100 No spark

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:52 am

Great. :)
So without the retainer bolt,the advance mechanism slid off the pin and wasn't turning with the shaft and no spark.
Who would a thunk to look there.
Good job.Keep us posted on how it turns out.




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