Timing belt replacement tutorial?


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Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby B0b88 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:13 pm



I have the clymers but the clymers manual stinks compared to anything wing admin puts out... I'm wondering if there is a good DIY article on here someone could point me to.

Thanks either way,
Bob



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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby trashtruck » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:40 pm

there should be tutorial under diy section, youtube also has a couple of vids. works for 1200, 1100, 1000's, minor differences but the same idea
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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:19 pm

The diy article on this site is outstanding! While your in there I would reccomend changing the thermostat and radiator hoses-even if they look o.k. Regards, Johnyy

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby golden highway » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:24 pm

I used s video from Steve Saunders site. Worked better than any books

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby B0b88 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:42 pm

I couldn't find a timing belt DIY in the gl1100 section that's why I asked lol..

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby patbrandon1 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:04 pm

http://ngwclub.com/shoptalk/ Left side has the DYI's for this.

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:28 pm

I have a system that is fool proof...the last time I posted it , the radiator was in place and I changed the belts in like 8 minutes ...I can make another video if you want me too..But this time it won't have the radiator in place..But you gotta ask... :shock: I have mastered the art of changing these silly things, it a cake walk man..You can't screw up... :D

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:41 pm

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9774
This diy article covers it all-different year-but same application.Straight forward-better then some "independent gurus". Regards, Johnyy

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:47 pm

http://ngwclub.com/shoptalk
OOOOPS-posted wrong web adress-correct is above! Johnyy

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby B0b88 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Thanks Johnny, littlebeaver I'd love to see it if its not a bother, I'm sure a Ton of people would benefit from it.

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:03 pm

Ok then no problem,,,I will work on this for you Bob tomorrow and I will post it here in the afternoon...Just special for you...Thanks for asking... :D

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby B0b88 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:10 pm

No no thank you for offering! :D

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby trashtruck » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:17 pm

beav, you da man. where would we be without you?
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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:18 pm

This should be fun....I might use my helmet cam... :shock:

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:11 pm

Sigh. I still have plans to post a GL1100 timing belt tutorial. My big problem is lack of time. If anyone would care to pay me to allow me to quit this annoying time-sucker called a JOB, I'd be happy to full-time this and crank out as many tutorials as I could. :)

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:43 pm

WingAdmin.. it's cool man you do so much all the time...Nobody does the change the way I do and it's so different than anyone elses... I have the video made now and I'm waiting to edit it and to have some breakfast..I stayed up until 4 am distmantling the bike for my friend Bob..Stand by for some photo's and a video today as promised, this might get funny ...I had to take the pulley off my crank and everything and I put the original bolt back in place for the video... :shock: Pulled the radiator this time..Valve covers, ect. :shock: :shock:

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:58 pm

Well I had a couple of bean, bacon and cheese taco's and I feel much better now...this change won't be everyone's favorite but I make things easy on myself, I dreamed this up all by my lonesome :lol: ..with help from Octane and Honda's manual I got some idea's...My system is simple, you lock both pullies in place, they will not be damaged in any way doing this so relax..all your doing is holding the pulley from moving ....That's it..I'm not trying to be better than the next guy or anything like that, but I never sweat it changing my belts...I remembered freaking out the first time I changed them :shock: ...It was pain in my rear end... So I changed it to do it my way...First I remove the valve cover, timing belt covers, Spark plugs, and the two caps, the timing window cap and the crank cap on the rear of the engine..I will show you photo's too... :D
Spark plugs have been removed and I placed some paper towels in the cavity
Spark plugs have been removed and I placed some paper towels in the cavity
[attachment=1]my tie changer stand 168.jpg I hope this helps you get your belts on and you might be able to use a c-clamp if you don't have welders clamps....Tighten them but don't over do it.. :lol: No need too it will hold the pullies fine...I just like being in total control of stuff....Once your belts are on remove the sockets and rotate the crank 180 degrees so that the up is facing down and check the tension, if one of the belts is too tight then rotate it back to TDC again and [check your marks again too].. put the sockets back in and adjust the tension until you are happy with it, do this until you get it just right and the belts are not too tight or too loose....Too tight and you can wear out those bearings too loose and maybe it could skip a cogg... :shock: 1/8" to 3/16" play may be good...

there no way you can get a tooth off doing it like this, it's just about impossible unless you are off your reference mark some how.....No way... :D Have fun Bob...
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Timing window cap has been removed on top of engine
Timing window cap has been removed on top of engine
17mm socket for the cover cap, and 12mm for the crank bolt and listen up, While turning you must turn up or clockwise if you are looking at the bike from the rear looking forward, Up never down,, down No on that crank bolt only up...set it to T-1 and confirm your pulley marks and make sure up is up on the pullies and your marks are good, now place the belt in a 19mm socket for the pullies with holes and you may need to fit a socket for the triangle type holes
17mm socket for the cover cap, and 12mm for the crank bolt and listen up, While turning you must turn up or clockwise if you are looking at the bike from the rear looking forward, Up never down,, down No on that crank bolt only up...set it to T-1 and confirm your pulley marks and make sure up is up on the pullies and your marks are good, now place the belt in a 19mm socket for the pullies with holes and you may need to fit a socket for the triangle type holes
Pulley is locked down and belts are in the clamps just waiting for a new home, once you take the belts off you just change them out, slide them by each other and place the new,  ..Nothing is moving ...I also paint a reference mark on the crank at about 4 oclock because at 12 oclock it's hard to see... I painted a white mark on the belts so I didn't confuse the two belts, one set is old...
Pulley is locked down and belts are in the clamps just waiting for a new home, once you take the belts off you just change them out, slide them by each other and place the new, ..Nothing is moving ...I also paint a reference mark on the crank at about 4 oclock because at 12 oclock it's hard to see... I painted a white mark on the belts so I didn't confuse the two belts, one set is old...
Reference mark for TDC instead of at 12 oclock, I like it at 4 oclock where I can see it with ease
Reference mark for TDC instead of at 12 oclock, I like it at 4 oclock where I can see it with ease

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:02 pm

Hey you guys might want to use a torque wrench on the tensioner bolts, I have a built in torque mechanism :shock:

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:49 am

There is one thing I should mention, when you tighten down the tensioner bolts the belt will tighten up more so keep that in mind...I'm sure on the 82's and 83's the triangle shape in on the pullies opening, just find a socket to fit the opening, after you change your belts check your valve clearances because it's a perfect time to do so..Wingman has a awesome write up on that..viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2229

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby Greg_C » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:51 pm

Thanks for this great post Littlebeaver ... this is timely as I have my new belts still to install on my 80 GL1100 project bike and will probably lock things down like you did.

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:01 pm

Man, Greg if I can help out one guy with this video, it would make it all worth doing...I had to take off my alt. conversion 4" pulley on the crank for this video :shock: ...Glad you got something out of it.. :D It's as simple as the video shows...

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 am

If you think about it, this system will work really nicely with the engine out of it's frame too... :D

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:03 am

B0b88 wrote:No no thank you for offering! :D

Sorry Bob I went ahead on because there might be someone else that may want to do it differently... ..This was far easier for me is all... :D Everyone has their own ideas and the end results is what matters, no matter how it's done.... :D Oh and Admin. when you get some time you should go ahead and make a really good tutorial on this, I happen to really like your stuff...

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby B0b88 » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:29 pm

Thanks beaver!! Awesome write up! I just got my "timing belt" today... Didn't realize I had to buy two :( off to amazon I go hahahahaha

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Re: Timing belt replacement tutorial?

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:17 pm

Bob thanks man,,,It's bloody simple this way...Read thru Octane's and absorb everything and maybe you can combine the two methods,,,Octane is the man though..His photo's are outstanding...Don't know him but I like him... :D WingAdmin. will do another write up, later on....I fly through my stuff... :D I'm hoping to take some anxiety away from every first timer on this site wanting to do his belts for the first time is all...You sir are very welcome..I almost have the bike totally back together...My back went out on me but I'm all better today.. :D




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