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primary chain

Postby jboent77 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:32 am



Hello I have 1982 1100 Aspencade has set for 7 years had some trouble with carbs but it certainly is coming around I cant believe the power this bike makes i need info on drive train does this machine have a primary chain if so can it be adjusted I have slight rattle occassionally sounds like it is coming from lower left front on engine when your sitting on bike like when you are waiting on a stop light i hear it seems like when i release clutch a lil it usually will stop does anybody have any ideas i am jboent77 lubbock tx you can reach me here or at jboent77@gmail.com Thank You



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Re: primary chain

Postby bustedwing » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:58 am

The drive system on your bike does not have a chain such a Harley Davidson, but your clutch rattle may be from a few different reasons; it could be due to sitting for so long and the clutch plates are sticking, it could bd from clutch adjustment, it could be from oil type due to the fact that the clutch is a wet clutch and engine oil will effect the clutch. What you can try is before your next oil change, add either Sea Foam or transmission fluid to the crankcase, let it run for about 10 minutes, change the oil make such to use oil that works on a wet clutch, of course change the filter, and check the clutch adjustment. The next oil change, depending on how you ride and how the clutch works for you, you may want to change early doing the same process to get any remaining gunk out of the crankcase. Good luck, I hope this helps.
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Re: primary chain

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:44 am

I think he's talking about the primary chain, which links the engine to the transmission, internally. It's a big, thick chain that has no adjustment. It can make a rattling noise that sounds like your crankcase is full of marbles. Under heavy load, and particularly when the carburetors are not properly balanced, it can make a terrible noise. The best way to mitigate it is to balance your carburetors - and it is very finicky, so make sure they are balanced EXACTLY right.

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Re: primary chain

Postby William Ennis » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:55 pm

Wow, this was a useful bit of information to me. I have been so worried about the rattle-like noise in my engine (70,000 miles) that I bought a used clutch basket assy off the eBay, thinking that my near-future involved an "engine out" clutch replacement. Your recommendations may save me the headache I anticipated. Thank you!
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Re: primary chain

Postby trashtruck » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:31 pm

bill, just fyi, you can change clutch plates and disks with the engine in. it's easier with the rear tire removed but not neccessary.
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Re: primary chain

Postby William Ennis » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:42 am

Right now I am thinking I will just tell others, "Yeah, I used to own a Goldwing."

My GL650 has been good to me. It has taken me to other states, and I've had very few problems working with the machine.

Seems as if the GL1000 is a bike with a lot of obsolete P/N's and it has more time on its center stand than on the road. I just wanted to ride the thing but the urge to sell it is growing.

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Re: primary chain

Postby bustedwing » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:47 pm

Bill, I have to apologize for my first post on this thread. Wing gave you the right advice and I wasn't completely right in my answer. I had forgotten the drive chain. Hopefully wings advised can get you going.
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Re: primary chain

Postby patbrandon1 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:42 pm

William Ennis wrote:Right now I am thinking I will just tell others, "Yeah, I used to own a Goldwing."

My GL650 has been good to me. It has taken me to other states, and I've had very few problems working with the machine.

Seems as if the GL1000 is a bike with a lot of obsolete P/N's and it has more time on its center stand than on the road. I just wanted to ride the thing but the urge to sell it is growing.


Please try these two things, Seafoam, and sync, before you give up that Wing.

I ran half a can of seafoam for about 100 miles gently, then changed the oil to one recommended in my users manual specs. And I do that before every oil change. I used to work for an oil supply company, and you never know what can end up in the beginning oil. These wet clutches are kinda picky oil wise, and can contribute to the marble like rattle.

Then sync those carbs. Here is a link in a how to where I got the info to make my own sync setup. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=81 and it is a great how to.
You can have someone else sync it if you don't want to make one, but I like to know the carbs are exactly right.

After I did those two things, the marble rattle was all gone. The good thing about doing these is that, doesn't require any motorcycle parts hunting. :D My Wing has 79,000 miles on it, but I believe she has another 100,000 on her easy. But I am blessed to have a motorcycle bone yard 40 miles from me, and can find virtually any part I need.

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Re: primary chain

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:05 pm

The 1100's are particularly sensitive to carb sync, it takes only a very small amount of out-of-sync to get that rattle happening.




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