Possible aftermarket calipers?


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Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:37 pm



Before I go ride 30 miles to confer with mother Honda... I thought I would ask the true pro's I've looked all over online for a set of brake pads/calip. Rebuild kit... And now I'm worried to buy either, below is the pad I pulled out of one of my single piston calipers. As you'll see below that not one part store I've searched contains a brake pad anywhere close to that. Are the pictures on the web pages just generic pictures of pads?
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These are what I'm finding online




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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby trashtruck » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:03 pm

those are the correct calipers for your year. i'm surprized EBC doesn't have them for you. also try cyclemax. mother honda's gonna want $40+ per side. i know there's a post on here somewhere with pad numbers, just can't find it right now.
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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:35 pm

The worst part of it is.... I'm not exactly sure what's wrong with the brakes, the guy I bought it off of had the line disconnected... All he told me was that the front left caliper would freeze up if he applied the front brake.. He tried to tell me that there is a two different holes in the master cylinder and the return hole was clogged... I figure I'm gonna want to install new pads/rebuild the calipers anyway for safety sake.. I'm guessing the caliper piston needs a 600/1500 grit cleaning and it was just seizing..

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:51 pm

Omg 4 pads on any of these online sites is going to cost me 150$ ridiculous!

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby trashtruck » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:02 am

most folks with bikes use the front brakes more than the rear. older hondas are notorious for rear brakes sticking and seizing. you're probably right, i see a rebuild in your future. lots of folks use the stainless steel lines also. they say there is a remarkable improvement over stock. i haven't tried them yet but plan to on my next rebuild, (or sooner if something goes bad). rear pads i believe will be thicker than front. both front should be the same. i suggest to stay away from sabre cycle for parts. those pads were used by many different manufacturers so bring them with you to suzuki or yamaha.
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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am

http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1100_ ... 9809/48650

The picture shows the wrong pad so dont worry about that, use the pull down tab to select your year and front or rear. Price is $22 for 2 pads. You will need to order 2 sets for the front and another set for the rear. Total of $66 plus shipping for all new pads.

Use the search function on the forum here to look for other posts about the return port in the master cylinder being clogged. It happens to these old girls when they dont get the fluid flushed out every couple of years. Itsa very small hole and is easy to plug up. A lot of people have used a single wire from a wire brush to clean it out.
Its hard to tell from the picture just how much brake pad you have left there but it looks like you have enough for awhile. 8-)
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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:23 am

I took a closer look at the pics you posted here, I would be looking for new rotors while you were at it. There are some pretty deep grooves in them and can be seen in your brake pads too. Only you can make that determination for sure. 8-)
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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:59 am

Yup, there are some very deep grooves on the rotors *sighs*

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:01 am

Is it possible to take these to a local brake shop to be turned? Or as I'm guessing there just isn't enough surface on them to be turned... My buddy is in a auto shop class at the college could probably get them done free if possible.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:17 am

Oooo oooo I almost forgot to ask... Neither caliper had retaining pins on the pads :( more oem parts in gonna have to buy I'm guessing...

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby El Taco » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:39 am

[quote="B0b88"]Oooo oooo I almost forgot to ask... Neither caliper had retaining pins on the pads :( more oem parts in gonna have to buy I'm guessing...[/quote]


No, your pads are retained by the shoulders in the caliper hangers. No pins, other than the ones your calipers ride on. Be sure to clean those up and lubricate them during reassembly. You might clean up the surfaces in the hangers as well, if there's enough corrosion to warrant it. I polished mine, along with the rest of it.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby El Taco » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:41 am

[quote="RoadRogue"]The picture shows the wrong pad so don't worry about that.[/quote]

Thought I would point this out for clarity.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby westgl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:17 am

As far as you rotors go i would look for a Motorcycle salvage yard locally.

I would call them and see if they have any Goldwing's the year of your bike.

Also ask how much they are $$.

Then go and get the Rotor's off of one of those bike's that looks like they are in good shape, also look at the min thickness and take a measuring device calipers.

This is to make sure they still have enough meat left.

I do most of my shopping at the local bike salvage, for Hard items like rotors.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby B0b88 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 am

After searching 8 sites for rotors, I find they are not cheap!


I did find these though, has anyone on here bought and Installed these?

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby westgl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:17 pm

I have picked up rotors from a salvage yard that looked excellent.

I have also picked up some rotors that looked good except they had a lot of Glazing on them.

I took some 300 grit sandpaper and knocked off all the glazing and they have been working Great.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby trashtruck » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:32 pm

bike junkyard is a good idea. there is always ebay.
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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby westgl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:48 pm

I use Fleece Bay too but only as a LAST!!!! Resort.

At the Salvage yard you can look at the part before you buy.

I bought a rack o Carbs there for a 75' GL10 that i built for My Brother in law, the Carbs looked good on the out side, but when i pulled the Bowls off the metal was like play dough, very Soft, you could rub off metal with little pressure, and put you finger nail deeply into the metal.

I dont know what the deal was with that set o carbs, But took them right back and they replaced them for another set of 75' Carbs I was lucky they just happened to have two sets of carbs for a 75' that had the correct Carb model # I was looking for.

Second set of carbs was good.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby westgl » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:03 pm

If i was Me,
and last time i checked i was.

I would Stick with Stock OEM parts as much as possible, they have lasted for 30+ years and are proven to work and last the test of time

Your old ones are grooved, and ruined because the Previous owner did not do the proper maintenance and probably let the brake pads get to thin or down to metal, and destroyed the rotors.

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Re: Possible aftermarket calipers?

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:54 pm

If you cant find any replacements near you I have a pair of rotors here in very good shape. 8-)


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