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Fulcrum
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Maybe serious problem

Postby Fulcrum » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:25 pm



So I had a problem with the throttle in the carbs before I pulled them. Rebuilt the #4 carb and overnight soaked the #2 carb. Today I start to rebuild that carb and noticed the butterfly on the engine inlet side is shut. And I mean stuck shut. Gave it a couple light raps with a wooden dowel to move it and it opened a little but is seriously seized. Anyone else had issues with a butterfly like this. I am not sure what to do other than try to soak it some more and keep hitting it with penetrant. But right now that sucker is waaaaay stuck. Any suggestions or advice is more than welcome.



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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby SteveB123 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:20 am

Try turning it the other way.
Seriously, it's easy to get things spun around.

Pics would help.
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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby Fulcrum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:50 am

The butterfly was closed before. I was able to open it a little. It shouldn't be able to rotate the other way. Here are some pics tho its still kinda hard to really get a view. I've added side by side pics at the bottom for comparison on the butterflies opening. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby Fulcrum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:17 pm

Really need some help here guys! I've tried soaking it, dousing it with penetrant, boiling it. I'm out of ideas here. Does anyone know how to the throttle rod comes out of the carb housing? Any advice is appreciated.

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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:32 pm

I bought a seriously seized carb it took me all together around 4 hours and 4 cans of wd to get them where they open fairly easy and snap shut like they're supposed to.. Keep spraying and working it back and fourth I use a set of vice grips for leverage and a handle :) good luck!!

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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:34 pm

I was curious about how that axel that links through each carb comes out as well I couldn't find anything on it... If you could get it out you could clean it with 00 steel wool and replace it with some fresh grease...

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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:44 pm

You know as I am sitting here with my carbs out aghhh I got to thinking about when I went through my own process of un seizing the butterfly's even though mine were practically glued shut they all worked in unison... Are you able to move the axel that runs through the carb and the butterfly doesn't move? Wonder if it is possible that the axel inside is broke??? Not sure if that's even possible...

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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:49 pm

Also tapping the butterfly with a wooden dowel seems like a bad idea... Learn from my own mistake of putting a drill bit through idle jets that were clogged lol :oops: impatience will get u nowhere.. If you bend that butterfly it will definitely Mess with your carb synchronization luckily u can replace the butterfly unlike my junked set of 81 carbs

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Re: Maybe serious problem

Postby Fulcrum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:05 pm

Thanks for the advice Bob, I only tapped it twice because I noticed it wasnt loosening up. Guess I'll just have to keep praying that it will give. Really want to know how to get the linkage rod out tho, somebody here has to know.




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