HELP! Before I blow myself up!!


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HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:48 pm



I'm pretty sure I figured out why my starter wasn't working!!! When i went to take the starter out to check it out again I pulled the stater out of the engine and a couple cups of gasoline came pouring out!!!


Soooooo I'm guessing one or more of my carb floats isn't working correctly and gasoline is stopping a piston or four from compressing... My biggest question is how in the world did so much gas come out of the engine casing?? And does this mean I know it's a dumb question that gasoline is now mixed in with my oil?

And after I take the carbs out is there anyway to test them to make sure they aren't overflowing before reinstalling them on the bike? Maybe connect a gas line to it much higher off the ground and run gas Into it? Any ideas?




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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby thrasherg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:55 pm

I cant answer all your questions, but yes, you have a defective carb that is flowing fuel into the cylinders and causing hydraulic lock. You will need to remove the 4 spark plugs to let the fuel drain out of the cylinders (Turn the fuel tap off) and you will need to drain the engine and refill with new engine oil. If you are lucky, only 1 cylinder will be full of fuel and that will tell you which carb is at fault. Remember fuel is highly flammable so keep any naked flames well away from the bike and do this in a well ventilated area (Like outdoors!!).

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby trashtruck » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:59 pm

bob, you need to turn off the fuel valve at the tank each time you park the bike. you are hydrolocked. it's a common issue. remove the cap on the stator housing, just in front of the battery. remove the spark plugs and turn the motor over clockwise a couple of times. you could just remove the plugs, turn the kill switch off and hit the starter button but thats gonna spray gas everywhere. yes you'll need to change the oil.
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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:01 pm

Also, I took the starter to autozone and had them test it 10 times In a row sounded great without any problems... Also since i had it out I've insulated the brush wires with suguru a moldable rubber that is good to 180 Celsius (hope it holds) thrasherg any ideas how to test the carb for overflow issues before I reinstall them?

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:04 pm

Trash are u saying this will possibly still happen even if I adjust the floats?

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby thrasherg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:07 pm

Bob, I have a remote fuel tank (Holds about 2 pints of fuel) that I connect to the carbs after I have rebuilt them and they are still on my workbench. I put the tank as high as possible (To get the max fuel pressure at the carb) and wait to see if fuel comes out of the carbs before I then install them on the bike. The goldwing is more difficult as it has a fuel pump so the pressures are higher, but you might be able to try something similar? Hopefully only one of your cylinders is full of fuel so you will know which carb is at fault, then you need to give it a good clean and check. If you haven't done so, think about adding an in-line fuel filter to prevent dirt getting into the carbs later on (There should be one, but sometimes they are missing) and get into the habit of always turning the fuel tap off when you park the bike. This is a common problem on all older bikes with carbs (not just goldwings).

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:13 pm

Thanks for the info Gary, it's much appreciated right now :) I put on an aftermarket inline fuel filter (second one) first one alerted me to the rust in my gas tank :/ I have a Honda outboard gas tank with a long line on it I'll try that sitting ontop my car after I find out which carbs are being stubborn. Thanks again gAry and trashtruck

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:57 pm

Here's the pic from me re-Insulating the brush wires on the starter. not the prettiest... But I think it will do.

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby trashtruck » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:16 pm

bob, i know the fuel shut off on my bike is bad and leaks all the time so rather than fix it like i know i should i did this:
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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:31 pm

Here's the pic I meant to post


I touched it up a bit better after I reinstalled the screw that attaches the wires. I'll check it after a few starts if I can ever get this bike road worthy lol

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Re: HELP! Before I blow myself up!!

Postby B0b88 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:33 pm

A mini petcock do you twist it?? It almost looks like a button that crimps the line :) nifty!




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