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Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:16 pm



Hey everyone
Was wanting to know if you all have a (how to topic on how to chance the timming belts). Looked for it but i dont see one. Also how hard is it do.
Thanks for your help Phillip



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Re: Timming Belts

Postby tunaboy » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:09 pm

There is a good one here and I am not sure how hard it is to do but will know soon. Getting ready to do mine. Bought the Gates belts off Amazon delivered for less than $30.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:13 pm

Thanks if you do yours soon let me know LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am getting mine from napa they are 20.00 for 1
Thanks again Phillip

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby Dakotaman » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:26 pm

Here is one from another site, that might help you out. Goldwingdocs is a real good site, but I found this one also.

http://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby eveready » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:00 pm

Littlebeaver has a video on here somwhere that is great. Maybe if he reads this he'll post the link.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:03 pm

Ok Thanks you guys you all are life savers.I will look for his posts maybe i will find it
thanks again Phillip

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:32 pm

I saw this an I wanted to help you find it , just click on Bob's post here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15597

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:21 pm

Thanks littlebeaver that will help me alot thanks so much
Phillip

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:16 pm

It's somewhat different from how Octane does his with his zip tie trick, it's as easy as the video show's and you cannot mess up...the only way would be if the crank moves alot and you place the belt back on with it not on the painted mark, nobody is going to do such a thing..Good luck...While checking the tension I always rotate the crank all the way around twice and feel the tension as I go on both belts ,,this will insure that it's not too tight at any point while it spins, if you feel it's too tight just loosen the tension a little on the side it gets too tight on..I lock it down again to do that just to be safe.. It's a Art to get them perfect..Not too tight not too loose.. :D

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:50 pm

Ok Littlebeaver thanks you are a big help, thanks very much for your feed back and also thanks to all of you here in goldwing docs. without you all i would not ever learned to work on this big machine now i learn a little as i go thanks to you all again
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Re: Timming Belts

Postby moffat » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:01 pm

What ever you do and what ever parts you use CHECK THE JOB OUT before trying to start the engine or ever turn it over with the starter motor. ENSURE THAT THE SPARKING PLUGS ARE REMOVED AND TURN THE ENGINE OVER BY HAND TO CHECK THAT THE VALVES DO NOT HIT THE PISTONS.
It is so easy to get this exercise wrong and the starter moter is powerful enough to bend the valve stems if the alignment has not been done properly- I KNOW BECAUSE I DID IT !!! :roll:

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:24 pm

Ok moffat Thank you for that info, I will do that for sure, Sorry that happened to you.
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Re: Timming Belts

Postby thrasherg » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:38 pm

moffat wrote:What ever you do and what ever parts you use CHECK THE JOB OUT before trying to start the engine or ever turn it over with the starter motor. ENSURE THAT THE SPARKING PLUGS ARE REMOVED AND TURN THE ENGINE OVER BY HAND TO CHECK THAT THE VALVES DO NOT HIT THE PISTONS.
It is so easy to get this exercise wrong and the starter moter is powerful enough to bend the valve stems if the alignment has not been done properly- I KNOW BECAUSE I DID IT !!! :roll:


This is excellent advise for any engine, not just goldwing engines!! :D

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby Dakotaman » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:11 pm

I have a couple of questions. When you say you turn the engine over by hand, to test that nothing is hitting, where do you turn it. From the centre pulley in the front of the bike where the timing belts are, or from the rear where the stator is? And when you look at the timing marks throught the timing hole, how exactly is supposed to look like? No offense but the pictures of that on here don't quite show it as it should, because of the angle they were taken. I just want to make sure.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby moffat » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:49 pm

I have turned the engine over via the stator nut and also by putting the machine in top gera and turning the rear wheel. It is difficult to explain the timing marks verbally but get the maintenance manual and read before picking up a spanner.
I also photstat the relevant pages and use them in the workshop and thus have a clean manual for future use.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:12 pm

Dakotaman wrote:I have a couple of questions. When you say you turn the engine over by hand, to test that nothing is hitting, where do you turn it. From the centre pulley in the front of the bike where the timing belts are, or from the rear where the stator is? And when you look at the timing marks throught the timing hole, how exactly is supposed to look like? No offense but the pictures of that on here don't quite show it as it should, because of the angle they were taken. I just want to make sure.


Always turn it from the back of the engine. Turning from the pulley in the front can cause you to loosen the pulley bolt.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby Dakotaman » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:48 am

Ok. Turning from the back of the engine, could that bolt loosen also? And when you turn it from the back, you turn it clockwise when you face the back of the engine??

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:52 am

Dakotaman, that is correct sir, turn the nut up not down or clockwise if you are looking at the it front the back forward, turning it down will loosen it and you don't want to do that,,I always take out the spark plugs first before rotating the crank, it makes it turn a lot easier,,with the plugs in you can still rotate it but it's much harder to turn but not impossible I've done it several times, I think it would be wise to remove the plugs though because your going to check your valve clearances anyway aren't you?..It's actually kinda fun once you have done it several times, I check them now just for fun.... :D The main thing when checking this is to make sure you have your T-1 mark correct and up says up on the cam pullies and all the marks are spot on....
Should look like this
Should look like this

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby Dakotaman » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:47 am

Thanks all for the info!! So remove sparkplugs first, then turn the Stator bolt clockwise and make sure the two marks beside the T are aligned with the mark or on the outside of the opening.

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:18 pm

That is correct sir...After you have the two cam pulley covers or timing belt covers off and you have the T-1 set, look and make sure that the UP on the pulley says up,,,if it's not rotate the crank around one more time to get to T-1 again...The if it says up now, look to the sides of the Cam pulley and find the arrows, they both should align with the mark on the engines case, they should point right to it looking at it from the front view ...If they are aligned correctly which they should be... then all is perfect...
the cam pulley should look like this,  I painted a mark on mine so I can see it with ease...
the cam pulley should look like this, I painted a mark on mine so I can see it with ease...
Dakotaman there is a great How to over at the NGW site it walks you through the whole process by a Ace mechanic..Octane I think his name is..good write up...Nice Photo's too...Here is the site and the How to....http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby Dakotaman » Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:01 pm

Thanks a bunch!!! Have a good weekend!!!

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Tue May 07, 2013 1:45 pm

Hey all
Ok I got my belts on but one side the belt is to me seems very tight. And I got the belt trencher all the way up to were it wont go anymore. Is this suppose to be like this the other side a little slack in it
Thanks Phillip

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Tue May 07, 2013 8:09 pm

One side will be tighter than the other at TDC where you are, I think it's the Left side if you are facing it..If your marks are on target and both belts are on and the tensioner is set, rotate it by hand at the back crank bolt 180 degree's where the up is now down and then feel the tension, the opposite side will be tight now....the fun part is to get them balanced where they are not too tight or too loose at any point during it's rotation..It's a Art to profect...But not too hard..this is why I like locking the cam pullies down in place so I can easily loosen and tighten the tensioners at will..See if a guy tighten both belts the same when he starts then when he rotates it one side will get way too tight so to anwser your question yes it's normal for one side to have more tightness than the other..Now go fudge with her and you will see what I'm talking about... :D

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby whiteeaglepwl » Wed May 08, 2013 2:43 pm

Hey littlebeaver
Ya I did that and you was right and I also like a dummy didn't push the trencher far enough up and that loosened the belt up also. So now they just have a little slack in them. The Honda dealer ship said that one of the belts one was longer than the other, cos I didn't buy them from them I got them from NAPA. But they are the same length to me they are LOL . But thanks again Littelebeaver you have been a big help. I just now got don adjusting the values. Buying new hoses and putting it all back together
Thanks Phillip

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Re: Timming Belts

Postby littlebeaver » Wed May 08, 2013 3:02 pm

Yeah that's great, glad I could help... Sometimes I need help with stuff too...But I am getting this Goldwing thing down to a science..Thanks to our Admin. and others here..




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