Which replacement starter??


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Which replacement starter??

Postby tunaboy » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:20 am



I am trying to help my friend with a bad starter on his '83 interstate. He tells me that he does not want to rebuild his old starter. He said that he wants to have a replacement on hand and just pull the old starter and put in the new unit. Not my first choice but this is what he wants to do. I see several new starters available on E bay. I have heard some horror stories. Of the new replacement starters which one should he buy??

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SteveB123
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby SteveB123 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:23 am

If he only wants to do it once, Ricks Motorsport.

No horror stories there.
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby SteveB123 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:53 am

http://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4247

Long read, but less work than trying to fit a junk Ebay starter.
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby blackwolfs8 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:18 pm

Wow i guess I musta got lucky ,last summer I got a starter off ebay , and yea the first one puked but I cantacted seller and he had replacement on its way before I had sent the puked one out and so far its still starting the bike. :D

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby blackwolfs8 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:33 pm

Caltric was the seller maybe he the one good one :lol:

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby SteveB123 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:17 am

It wasn't a seller's problem, it's a manufacturing problem.

I wouldn't call the 50% failure rate you've experienced a blinding success.
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby blackwolfs8 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:54 pm

Steve I would agree with the 50% rate however the seller paid return shipping and shipped replacement in a very quick manner and Ive bought numberous automotive parts from NAPA ,Oreillys,Autozone etc and had issues both with quality and in the return policy of any electrical part so every part out there no matter the supplier has issues and oh I work for AC delco in a starter and Alt plant for seven years and seen loads of returns and lots of crappy rebuild "craftmanship" was a major cause.

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby ned » Tue May 21, 2013 4:27 am

hmmm... i bought one from a seller on Ebay. Yes, it was from a supplier mentioned above.

It was sold as new. It didn't work. It was not a new unit at all, but a nasty, low quality rebuild with a **** paint job that peeled of in flakes on handling.

My email met with a little resistance with a another unit dispatched quackly. Between the two I got one to work but not for very long. a few months down the track it simply stopped turning. I will take it out to see if I can resurrect the thing, else I will take my Honda unit and have it rebuilt.

I've also been looking at one marketed on Ebay as "Rick's" permanent magnet unit. Pricey, but it may be worth it if it is new, it works and lasts. Any experience out there?

Ned

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby trashtruck » Tue May 21, 2013 6:22 am

i have a ricks starter on my 82 and it's still going strong. put it on last sept and it fit right in, no issues.
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby SteveB123 » Tue May 21, 2013 6:37 am

ned wrote:I've also been looking at one marketed on Ebay as "Rick's" permanent magnet unit. Pricey, but it may be worth it if it is new, it works and lasts. Any experience out there?

Ned


There's a long thread on another forum (see the link in my post above) about the trials and tribulations of E-Bay starter purchasing....the poster finally biting the bullet and going with a Ricks, without regret.

I'm using one of their solenoids, and am quite happy.
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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby hobo » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:29 am

I finally got rid of my goldwing starter problems by using a high torque starter from a Honda CB 900 put my nose cone on it and my end cap and Brushes Plate so starter would turn in right direction. has been in service now over 5 yrs with no problems

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby SociableWinger » Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:50 pm

Could you give more info about the CB900 starter, ie year of the CB900 (or are they all the same) and about the conversion (simply remove ends and apply to body of CB900 starter?)?

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby tunaboy » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:01 am

Anyone out there have any info on the CB 900 high torque starter swap. Would it be the same starter used on the 750 as well? Probably more 750's out there than 900's.

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Re: Which replacement starter??

Postby FlashBack » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:08 pm

Let me just start off by saying if you buy one of those $82.00 starters off Ebay or Amazon, they are made in Taiwan, do not have any grease applied to them in the planetary gears, cheap components on the electrical side of things and you'll most likley end up swapping it out in 6-8 months. At least that has been my experience.
I was going through the same process after my starter died of looking for a good replacement. After much research, i determined the best course of action was to rebuild the OEM starter which consequently got recycled by the shop that replaced the starter when i got the bike. The previous owner had purchased one, so it came with the bike.
The starter rebuild is not as complicated as it may seem. It took me about an hour an 15 minutes using the DIY article on this site. My biggest fear was the actual replacement of the starter given the cog gear sitting on the chain and the potential of it falling out.
What i did was went to a motorcycle salvage yard (CyclePsycho in Eugene Oregon) and purchased an OEM starter for $20.00. Next, i went to a local shop and purchased brushes, bearing and o ring for around $30.00. Rebuilt that on my bench then tested once re assembled and it spun like nobodys buisness. I then took everything off the left side of the bike, dropped the exhaust a bit, loosend both bolts holding the starter in without completley removing them, then placed the bike on the side stand. The actual replacemt of the starter was not as difficult as my fears made it out to be. Put everything back together and now i cant get my fimger of the start button quick enough.
Anyways, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in on this topic. You can see pictures of the Tawain starter and my rebuild at http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19581 at the bottom of the page.
Encourage your friend to use his OEM starter. He will save himself time & money in the long run




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