Kill switch/ Starter button


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Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby 80-GL100-INT » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:28 pm



Hello all,

I have been lurking around the board here for awhile. I have read through a lot of the how-to articles(kudo's to WingAdim & others). I have found them very useful as this is my first GW.

I have an '80 GL 1100I Interstate. I need some help with my kill switch. The last time I had trouble with one I was able to fix it but that was years ago and I don't remember what exactly I did.

When I turn the key on and press the start button it turns over in all three positions. I've separated the switch and pulled the top apart and cleaned it. There was just a little yuck in it but over all not too bad. Is this maybe a problem in the button? Do I just need to replace the switch?(don't want to if I don't have to of course). Any insight will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby patbrandon1 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:50 am

Does it run in all three positions? I know that may sound like a dumb question, but I'm just trying to understand. It is only supposed to run in the center position, and it will turn over in the other two, but not run.

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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:54 am

This is true.Up till the late 90's the kill switch only killed power to the ignition system.

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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby 80-GL100-INT » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 am

You are absolutely right. I was talking with a friend of mine last night, who ever so politely reminded me that it was not the stop switch I had trouble with on my 750, it was the push button that was going bad and when I went to replace it we found the pull cable fraying and had to replace the cables at the same time. Funny how we tend to block out the fond memories of having to push your bike uphill so you can get it started. :oops:

Now I guess I can try the reason I thought it might be the switch in the first place. About 2 weeks ago I went out to start it, the engine turned about a half a revolution and stopped like it couldn't get over the compression. I pulled the plugs and it turned over fine, put the plugs back in and it has been starting fine since, until last night, it did the same thing. He told me to check the neg cable to ground, but I politely reminded him about how neurotic I am about cleaning connections on all new to me vehicles. Usually the first thing I do on anything I buy (unless it's obvious) is get a new battery, pos, and neg. cables, and clean all the related connections. The only thing that had a little excess corrosion was the relay but it cleaned up. When I push the button, the relay clicks, it's just like it can't get over compression.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby trashtruck » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:27 am

if the bike is new to you and you've replaced battery and cables, have you inspected the starter? brushes might be worn or it may just be dirty inside.
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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:36 am

Or the solenoid itself but you'd have to probe the starter lug for volts when it won't crank to verify if it is getting volts.

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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby 80-GL100-INT » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:08 am

It's got 12.94v on bat. and relay sitting, 7.84v at starter pushing the button. A 5v drop to the starter??
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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:06 pm

Be brave now.Use a screwdriver and short the 2 lugs on the starter post briefly.It will spark bit .If the battery and starter are OK it will crank the engine.
A 5 volt drop indicated bad contacts in the solenoid.

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Re: Kill switch/ Starter button

Postby 80-GL100-INT » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:31 pm

Thanks for the quick reply's and the help. I thought it might have been the switch or the relay, hoping it wasn't the starter (however that will be rebuilt or changed in the near future, renewing is never a bad thing :lol: )

All you guys are great. This is by far the greatest, most informative forum I have ever registered on. I only hope I can be as helpful.

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