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dondons1984
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Please Help!!!!

Postby dondons1984 » Sat May 04, 2013 11:26 pm



I have a 1983 GL1100. Last time I rode it was fine. I pulled over to get some gas before heading out and went to go start it and got a single click from the starter solenoid. Since then I recieved a new starter since mine was toast (terminal that positive goes to was spinning) and also put a new solenoid on it. The solenoid I have the B connected to the negative body ground and the M to the starter. I still get a click when i push the start button. When I do hit the start button front light does go out. What should I do? Please you guys help me. I am very green on this. I have a multimeter and tools.

Thanks for any help you guys can give me.



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thrasherg
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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby thrasherg » Sun May 05, 2013 1:14 am

The headlight is suppose to go out, it is wired that way to allow more current to be available for the starter motor. You need to get a multimeter and check that you are getting 12volts at the atarter motor when you push the start button. On the starter relay (that you changed) there should be 2 large nuts, one has a thick wire coming from the battery (positive terminal) and the other big nut should have a thick wire that goes to the starter motor. If the starter motor is not working, there can only be a few reasons.
1 - the starter motor is not receiving 12 volts (put a voltmeter on the nut on the relay that goes to the starter motor, turn on the ignition, push the star button, headlight will go out and you should see 12 volts appear on the voltmeter). If you don't see 12 volts then the relay is probably defective, this is unlikely as you say you just replaced it
2 - the earth side of the starter motor is not good. Check the wiring from the negative terminal of the battery to where the wire attaches to the frame. Make sure the bolts are tight and ther is no rust/corrosion.
3 - the starter motor has failed. This requires you to remove the starter motor. Before doing this, find a set of car jump cables, put the wing on its center stand, check its in neutral. Then connect one of the jumper leads to the positive terminal of the battery. Be very carefull to NOT touch anything with the other end of the cable. Now find the nut on the starter relay that goes to the starter motor, carefully touch the end of the jumper cable to that nut, it will spark!! If the starter motor spins then the problem is the starter relay, if the starter motor doesn't do anything, then as stated before, it's either a bad earth or a bad starter motor, as stated, check the wiring from the battery negative terminal, then connect a jump cable to the battery negative terminal, clamp the other end to something metal on the engine, make sure to get a good contact and then turn on the ignition and press the start button. If the motor spins then you have a problem with the earth circuit and need to find it. If neither shorting positive to the starter relay or shorting negative to the motor caused the starter to spin, then your starter motor is at fault. you will need to remove it and open it up, often a good clean is all it will need, but occasionally theyalso need new brushes.

Hope that helps.

Gary

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby dondons1984 » Wed May 08, 2013 11:50 pm

so I discovered after taking the starter apart that the bushing are pretty nargly so I have replaced them and the bushing plate. Big problem I have is that I have to solder the bushing plate to the starter since it doesnt have the connector to attach. Will the solder hold or should I just scrap it all? that is the question that I find out tomorrow. Rest of the day I hope will be putting everything back together and going for a ride.

winginit82
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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby winginit82 » Mon May 13, 2013 3:56 pm

I Have a 1982 GL110A. I've had bad luck with starter relays. some bad from the get, some only lasted a month.
I replaced my relay with a relay for a 1965 ford pick up. It has worked great ever sence.
But first see if you have 12 volts at the starter when you push the starter button.

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B0b88
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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby B0b88 » Mon May 13, 2013 5:24 pm

Well... I thought my starter had went bad as well... Rebuilt it and it worked and then messed up again... What I finally figured out was I had a stuck float and the piston cavity had filled with gas and since gas does not compress it was stalling the engine from turning over (hydro lock).. Just a thought..

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby thrasherg » Tue May 14, 2013 11:06 am

That's a very good point, you might try removing all 4 spark plugs and seeing if the engine will turn over. Hydro lock is a common problem on older goldwings, due to dirt in the carbs.. If any fluid comes out the spark plug holes, keep all naked flames far away..

Gary

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby trashtruck » Tue May 14, 2013 11:30 am

The solenoid I have the B connected to the negative body ground and the M to the starter.

Read more: posting.php?mode=reply&f=4&t=16817#ixzz2THkQM2Ie

the starter is grounded to the engine. how do you get power to the starter with both terminals grounded? one side of the solenoid goes to the starter, the other side to battery pos.
WHAT IS THE SPEED OF DARK?

dondons1984
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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby dondons1984 » Tue May 14, 2013 11:42 am

Well I have that part fixed. Now I believe I am going to have to replace my head gasket. I was riding hit the throttle and a ton of whitish smoke went all over and continued to go over. I took off everything to drain and I got a lot of oil. No milky mix. Just oil. I think I may of overfilled it since every time I took the starter out I was told I loose a lot of oil. What everyone's idea on this?

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby virgilmobile » Tue May 14, 2013 12:17 pm

Fill the engine with the proper ammount of oil and run it.
Remember,it's a flat boxer engine...excessive ammount of oil can end up flooding the back side of the pistons.Some is bound to get through,or even sucked up through the crank case vent system.
It may take several miles to get the system cleared of the un-needed oil.

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby B0b88 » Wed May 15, 2013 1:28 pm

Thrash my bike hydrolocks if I leave the petcock on, I actually think its fun to remove the two plugs and watch gas shoot 20 feet away hahahaha

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby thrasherg » Wed May 15, 2013 4:24 pm

B0b88 wrote:Thrash my bike hydrolocks if I leave the petcock on, I actually think its fun to remove the two plugs and watch gas shoot 20 feet away hahahaha


It's fun until you have a naked flame nearby, then it goes from fun to exciting very quiclky!! :D

Gary

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Re: Please Help!!!!

Postby dondons1984 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:52 am

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